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Hello Everyone👋 Myself Yash Pimple I am interested in working on BookBrainz📕 Looking forward to connecting and learning from you all.

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KassOtsimine, monkey: How would you deal with books that contain short stories (some possibly quite short) but were probably never published individually? Example: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/richmal-cromp....

i got the example! look up neil gaiman!

Heh.

Are there any times where Gaiman's short stories get anthologized in other editions?

Like, that would make this an easy question to answer, I think.

OK, found one

Create a Work for each story, it doesn't matter in how many Editions it was pusblished in, I would say.

In my opinion there's even value in having works for stories/novels where it is known that they were were written but never published.

OK. I *think* I'm mostly there. We don't make a work for each named chapter of a book.

So I'm trying to put my finger on what constitutes a work vs. an integral part of a work.

Yes, chapters aren't really a work which stands on its own and are unlikely to be published separately. But for short stories you can imagine that it might happen. (My rule of thumb)

If a chapter were to be published in some other anthology (I've seen this) would you then call it out as a separate work, and link it to the greater work?

Not necessarily doing so for the other chapters...

Depends on how they were presented. Do they stand on their own or are they just promoting the whole book? In the first case having a separate work might make sense, in the second case I would prefer to have a different relationship or an attribute "excerpt", similar to MusicBrainz "partial (recording of)".

Huh, OK.

Makes sense.

Thanks.

oh yea. there are a few of his short stories thatwas inabnother compilation, and soem thrat had reworks as comics

kellnerd> Yes, chapters aren't really a work which stands on its own and are unlikely to be published separately. But for short stories you can imagine that it might happen. (My rule of thumb)

yes (but exeptionas are : small short storiues that was thne reworked to be a bigger part of a work. eg girl with al lthe gifts, and the grave yard book)

both had parts that started out as short stories

Indeed, I've already entered a work that started out as a published short story then was expanded to a full novel.

Another question, illustrators. I see that works can be illustrated, so can editions. Any advice on where to attach illustrators? I'm tending to do so on editions.

oh

yes

in general it is editions, yes. but it depends. liek a comicwould have the illustrator on the work

since a comic adaption would be it's own work

Ah, OK. Makes sense. :-)