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aadil
Hello Everyone, I'm not able to text on chatblogs.metabrainz. It's like i can only view messages but can't text. Please help anyone
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aadil
Sorry for inconvenience 😅. Now i know how to text. Actually, I'm begginner at IRC channel and all
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CatQuest
pbryan
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CatQuest
chatblogs.metabrainz?!
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pbryan
Good morning CatQuest.
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CatQuest
hi
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pbryan
I want to run a couple of questions by you. 🙂
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CatQuest
you caugt me just before i gt out so good!
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CatQuest
post them!
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pbryan
OK, so...
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pbryan
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pbryan
Each of these discourses should be a separate work, and I would use their title separately.
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pbryan
Where I'm caught-up is ordering, as it's much like a track list in a release in MB.
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pbryan
I found a JIRA ticket for an RFE to allow ordering, but it's a bit more than that.
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pbryan
It's the arrangement in books.
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CatQuest
oh yea we don't really yet have arrangable rels
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CatQuest
what i've done is add the works in the order they come
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pbryan
If I don't encode what book each of the work is in, that's essentially lost information.
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CatQuest
we really need orderable rels
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pbryan
Yeah, your technique works when creating the edition... usually.
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CatQuest
ok so you have to explain a bit, what mean "ordering in books" here?
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pbryan
BB has maybe a bug where adding a work, especially to an existing release, does not add it to the bottom.
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CatQuest
assume i have no idea about this wspesific book
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CatQuest
hm
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CatQuest
frm work side or edition side?
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CatQuest
but yea, that is showing of the limits of our model as of now :/
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pbryan
The "Books" were probably arbitrary by whomever compiled the anthology originally.
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CatQuest
bug shub and or monkey >:D
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CatQuest
oh
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CatQuest
hm
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CatQuest
so several books (editions) with various works attaced
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pbryan
So, it's pertinent to the edition, but not to the works, I think.
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CatQuest
same as different antologies with many short stories. or things like "the collected works of x" type dealies
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pbryan
I don't think there's any reason to break Discourses into separate editions for each "Book", it's like Part I, II, etc. in an opera I would say.
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CatQuest
i uh.. don't understand sorry, you have to explain what you mean from a "i have no idea" place :/
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CatQuest
wait soo..
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CatQuest
the "book" is parts?
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pbryan
Yes.
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CatQuest
that sounds like "book" is a work too
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CatQuest
works cn have "is a part of" work-work rels
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pbryan
Yes, I've used that a couple of times.
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CatQuest
ok
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pbryan
But I don't see Book I, Book II as being determined by the author.
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CatQuest
no, but the "arranger" would be then i suppose
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pbryan
It's probably by some ancient Roman who compiled Epictetus's discourses.
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pbryan
Broadly grouping them by what they thought was subject matter.
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pbryan
So, I can ignore books entirely when creating the works.
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pbryan
And I can "luck out" when I order them in an edition.
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CatQuest
yea that ordering issue is not something i can help with yet, sorry :(
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pbryan
But unless I encode it in the work title, we would lose "which book" each work was in.
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pbryan
OK.
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CatQuest
I mean, pr welcome and all that
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CatQuest
well you can put ut in the annotation for now
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pbryan
Yeah, OK, I can think more about it. I think ordering in edition goes a long way.
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pbryan
OK.
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CatQuest
indeed
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pbryan
So, other question, hopefully easier...
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CatQuest
yay!
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CatQuest
(i need to go out soon btw)
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pbryan
OK.
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pbryan
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CatQuest
ok?
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pbryan
Untitled poems.
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pbryan
I'm going with the convention of using the first verse, in quotes with an ellipsis.
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pbryan
(scroll to near bottom you'll see many like that)
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CatQuest
mhm.. my first knee yerk reaction is to like use [unofficial name] "first sentence" etc
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CatQuest
yep, i'd keep that yes
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CatQuest
"first line..." i say thats fine
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pbryan
OK.
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pbryan
Thanks!
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CatQuest
no prob!
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pbryan
Byee! 🙂
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CatQuest
hopefully i was a bit of help!
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pbryan
Yes, thanks.
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pbryan
Mostly some confirmation of sanity.
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CatQuest
:)
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CatQuest
those are good, and works both ways!
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pbryan
Thanks.
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pbryan
BrainzBot: seen pbryan?
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pbryan
BrainzBot: seen Shelly?
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pbryan
!m CatQuest
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, CatQuest!
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pbryan
BrainzBot: foo = bar
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pbryan
BrainzBot foo = bar
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pbryan
Hmm...
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pbryan
BrainzBot: foo?
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pbryan
remember foo=bar
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pbryan
BrainzBot: remember foo=bar
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pbryan
Brainzbot: braindump
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pbryan
BrainzBot: ping
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BrainzBot
Are you in need of my services, pbryan?
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pbryan
BrainzBot: recall foo
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