monika_.19: Sorry, just seeing the message now. Did you run into any issues while doing the database setup?
If you already had a database set up, you might need to run migration scripts, in this case specifically `sql/migrations/2024-02-07-credit-section/up.sql`
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muxxerexe[m]
Are visual novels consdierable for BBz?
s/consdierable/considerable/
monkey[m]
If you have psql the postgres utility installed on your computer, run psql -h localhost -d bookbrainz -U bookbrainz -f sql/migrations/2024-02-07-credit-section/up.sql
muxxerexe[m]
I mean, the only difference between a visual novel and an ebook or an illustrated book is that they are semi-interactive
monkey[m]
Followed by psql -h localhost -d bookbrainz -U bookbrainz -f sql/scripts/create_triggers.sql
muxxerexe[m]
* and an audio ebook or
monkey[m]
muxxer.exe: IMHO yes they have their place there, specifically because usually the content is delivered through text or accompanied with text.
Not sure if it fits into one of the existing categories
(for the edition format)
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I feel like none of these fit perfectly
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reosarevok[m]
Is Disco Elysium a book?
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monkey[m]
Don't know it. Is the story delivered through text?
reosarevok[m]
I mean, it has more text than many books
Plenty of VNs in my experience have you walk and whatnot, what's the limit? :)
I guess if it's one of those "it's static images but you get to click to choose your own adventure" then that's just a digital choose your own adventure book 😅
Maybe there's different definitions in the VN community vs the wider games community
muxxerexe[m]
As in, merely a background, sprites of characters and then the text, and in some cases maybe some videos and voice acting
But, in general, "VN" refers to games which have most or the entirety of their gameplay based around merely text.
reosarevok[m]
The kinds where there's no "gameplay" other than clicking seem to fit, I guess - so does Zork :)
muxxerexe[m]
Clannad, for instance, is an example of a regular visual novel.
Some games, say the one I'm playing now: Snowbreak, are a mix.
The story is provided through visual novel scenes, but the gameplay is that of a shooter.
reosarevok[m]
Of course, it'd be a lot better to have GameBrainz 😅 but
muxxerexe[m]
as for the format, "eBook" would be the closest from the list, but I don't think Visual Novels could so much be considered as editions as they should be considered works.
Well, I have proposed it and I have modelled a database for a GamesBrainz project
In fact, I *have* in mind to start the project sometime later, but given my experience on website design is rather basic and doesn't extend beyond regular CRUD stuff, I don't see myself developing a decent site without some extra help.
But a lot of people are probably not too interested; big project, lots of work, and some just don't care because there already exist other databases for videogames, although I personally think they're shit.
Best vidya database I know is VNDB, since it's very extensive and well-kept.
In any case, going back to the original topic: I imagine visual novel scripts can be considered valid works for BookBrainz, I suppose?
monkey[m]
IMO yes, but if you want a broader consensus you can open a forum post and ask the wider community
