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      • FajarKazmi[m]
        Hello everyone! I’m a beginner interested in contributing to MetaBrainz. I’m looking for some guidance on where to start. Is there anyone available who can help me with this?"
      • aerozol[m]
        Hi Fajar, welcome! Sure thing, what are you interested in contributing?
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      • yonawo
        welcome, Fajar, I myself started editing just a few days ago xD
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      • Oh btw, what does "withdrawn" refer to? Is it albums and singles that are no longer available for streaming / purchase?
      • aerozol[m]
        To set something as withdrawn the artist has to consider it "expunged" from their discography: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Release#Status
      • Taking it off streaming services without knowing more isn't quite enough imo
      • yonawo
        I see, thank you. The two releases I have in mind (CVLTE's first EP and single Pray) are indeed expunged, the producer/vocal posted an instagram story about how he hated them and decided to bury them, so it fits the definition. They aren't included in their official site discogs even as entries :(
      • aerozol[m]
        Yeah that sounds like it fits the withdrawn status about as well as something could!
      • FajarKazmi[m]
        <aerozol[m]> "Hi Fajar, welcome! Sure thing..." <- I have experience in data analysis and Python programming, and I’m particularly keen on tasks related to data processing, cleaning, and implementing machine learning models. If there are any specific projects or areas where my skills could be beneficial, I would love to learn more about them!
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      • magnog[m]
        Hi I added this release on musicbrainz a week ago and it's still not showing tracklist on LB any idea why?
      • rustynova0[m]
        Tracklist have some update issues. if you listen to it they tend to update... So get listening
      • yonawo
        ^lol, FACTS! :D
      • rustynova0[m]
        THE BEAST NEEDS A SACRIFICE. IT NEEDS YOUR LISTENS. GLORY TO OUR LISTENING GOD- Sorry, brainzrot acting up
      • magnog[m]
        Really that's how it works? Even if it's added to MB I need to still scrobble them to show on LB? rustynova#0 I'll try when I get home then
      • rustynova0[m]
        Well technically it's a bug... Hopefully one that'll get squashed this bugfix quarter. I know it did take two weeks for a popular release I listened at to get populated so it can take a while
      • magnog[m]
        rustynova#0: funny now the track list is showing after I sent this message lol, how long does it take for the album to show on the artist page on LB? because it still doesn't show there
      • rustynova0[m]
        I think the artist page should be with the tracklist, or after a day... Or they are broken again
      • magnog[m]
        Damn the website is very buggy isn't it?
      • Not to mention it is atrocious to view on desktop , you can't extend albums without using your mousewheel button to go left and right, and you can't extend top songs either 😅
      • Hopefully it'll get better :)
      • rustynova0[m]
        Lately yeah. Holidays + the MB summit did take a lot of time away from development. Even more that the project is still relatively young so I treat it mostly as a beta. But the end of year will be dedicated to fixing bugs instead of new features
      • magnog[m]
        Yeah I'm all for squishing the bugs good luck
      • rustynova0[m]
        At least it's not as bad as putting all the artists with the same names on the same page *cough* *cough*
      • elkiensad[m]
        rustynova0[m]: string counter
      • rustynova0[m]
        String counter?
      • elkiensad[m]
        Last.fm is
      • rustynova0[m]
        They store their counts as strings?
      • elkiensad[m]
        idk how they store it but the user experience is like that
      • 0 mapping
      • I hate it
      • rustynova0[m]
        Oh. Oh no. OH NO. How is this website still alive!? I panic everytime I get a mismatched mapping that I can't correct because the recording isn't in the db... How do people live like this
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      • elkiensad[m]
        rustynova0[m]: so true
      • if 2 artists have a same name…
      • also anyone can submit anything
      • I dropped LFM since they literally don’t give a fuck (also they don’t let you give some if you don’t have a pro subscription)
      • rustynova0[m]
        At least you can submit anything and it won't end up in unmapped purgatory because you don't care about adding it to mb. But still
      • elkiensad[m]
        rustynova0[m]: but you can, anytime you want
      • or someone else can idk
      • rustynova0[m]
        Mostly meant for other users. Those who won't care about mapping their listens even if it has been added since then
      • Poor orphan listens
      • elkiensad[m]
        these listens usually get auto-mapped though
      • rustynova0[m]
        They do? Then I might try to insert recordings for other people then, if I'm bored of label dumping
      • elkiensad[m]
        yeah, I did for my gf’s #1 artist
      • I mean I added the discography time to time
      • now it has the same listen count as Last.fm
      • everypizza[m]
        lastfm kept mapping my obscure artists to more popular artists with the same name
      • elkiensad[m]
        there is 13 “Vega” on Last.fm: https://www.last.fm/music/Vega/+wiki
      • they fight in shoutbox to find which one is the best
      • rustynova0[m]
        This is just sad
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      • lazybookwyrm[m]
        We have people on MusicBrainz occasionally that try to edit releases so Last.fm will match them
      • Add feat. artists back to titles and such
      • elkiensad[m]
        😐
      • aerozol[m]
        Fajar Kazmi: we don't have any machine learning stuff, but lots of data processing. Check out tickets.metabrainz.org, or feel free to open your own tickets and work on them, if you see potential for improvement that we haven't
      • If what you'd like to do didn't quite fit with existing elements you can also look at creating a completely new page in "explore", and go ham
      • Re. Data processing you might be interested in keeping an eye on #bookbrainz - I believe it's getting close to the point where we are going to be mass importing library of congress etc records to BB
      • lucifer: I know you’re dealing with a lot with back to back summits at the moment, but a user is taking us to task on Mastodon about the Weekly Exploration playlists still being stuck, for almost a month now I think. Can we give them an estimated time when this will be fixed? Or is it possible for someone else (@monkey?) to give it a kick/restart?
      • monkey: ^ sorry, the ping didn’t stick, re-ping :)