letoseldon: welcome ! Sad and enraging to read all those comments on the Spotify forums of frustrated developers that got rug pulled š”
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monkey[m]
Your recommendations playlists will be better if you can get your hands on your spotify extended streaming history and import it.
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monkey[m]
At the moment that process is a bit involved: you need to request your history from spotify, wait a few weeks, download the files, then use a third-party CLI tool like Elbisaur to import those files.
Does the daily playlist refresh every morning in the users timezone monkey ? Do we have an approx time or is it variable enough that we just say āmorningā (Iām assuming thatās the reasonā¦)
2024-11-29 33439, 2024
monkey[m]
I looked at the code for it, looks like it is run everyday at midnight (I'm assuming midnight UTC or CET)
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monkey[m]
So, yeah, should refresh every day, but its a relative "morning"
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monkey[m]
<letoseldon[m]> "Ha, very good to know! Thank you..." <- > <@_discord_492889197926154250:chatbrainz.org> Ha, very good to know! Thank you. It's helpful to know that the description of the weekly playlist states that it updates on Monday morning. That being said, as a new user, I don't get to see these descriptions on... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/MhFyfEXgYMxQSNYefyBLMrQM>)
2024-11-29 33407, 2024
monkey[m]
*this week, not yesterday
2024-11-29 33437, 2024
monkey[m]
I still think we need a better page that this documentation page, or we need to review it and make it more user-friendly
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rustynova[m]
That makes me think. Do people like their weekly jams? Personally I don't listen to them as they are full of recordings I only listened to once and never again. (And I got alistral for my daily 10 hours work playlists)
2024-11-29 33410, 2024
rustynova[m]
As for exploration playlist, I prefer Spotify's as it fills my missing data page, giving me more stuff to add~
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mayhem[m]
some people really like them, others are meh. you on the other hand are a metadata geek
2024-11-29 33423, 2024
rustynova[m]
They are Listenbrainz user, I'm a MusicBrainz user. We are not the same.
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mayhem[m]
exactly. needs the meme image now. :)
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rustynova[m]
But still curious. Since it should be ready for the onslaught of angry Spotify nerds
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mayhem[m]
not sure that will happen. it would've happened already
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monkey[m]
~~ we'll see. I am also of the opinion that recommendations can be improved. The main vector of improvement would be more LB users, so it's a waiting game
2024-11-29 33423, 2024
monkey[m]
+ improvements to our recs system, which also require a lot of work and are hard to evaluate
2024-11-29 33430, 2024
rustynova[m]
Definitely need more LB users, at least in the dubstep space. There's plenty of similar artists that are not the best matches, and I keep having recommendations of artists I don't like because my similar users listen to them.
2024-11-29 33419, 2024
rustynova[m]
There should probably have a bit more "artist you listened to recently" in there as well.
2024-11-29 33419, 2024
reosarevok[m]
Dumb, dumb similar users! š
2024-11-29 33426, 2024
rustynova[m]
I don't have any above 13 compatibility tho, apart from one at 16 but with so little listens that the stats is thrown off
2024-11-29 33436, 2024
letoseldon[m]
Thanks for your help. I requested my extended history and set up `elbisaur`. It's a nice tool. Glad I finally get to use something written with Deno. š
2024-11-29 33407, 2024
letoseldon[m]
I noticed that `https://listenbrainz.org/recommended/tracks/:user_name` has started populating with track recommendations today. Is there a way to get the Spotify ID of these recommended tracks? I started playing with the ListenBrainz API and `/1/metadata/recording/` doesn't seem to give much metadata on the recordings from my listening history.
2024-11-29 33434, 2024
letoseldon[m]
* I noticed that `https://listenbrainz.org/recommended/tracks/:user_name` has started populating with track recommendations today. Is there a way to get the Spotify ID of these recommended tracks? I started playing with the ListenBrainz API and `/1/metadata/recording/` doesn't seem to give much metadata on the queried recordings.
2024-11-29 33431, 2024
letoseldon[m]
Maybe I should be querying the MusicBrainz API?
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elomatreb[m]
LB has this functionality internally for its "play on Spotify" feature, but I'm not sure if it's exposed as an API somewhere
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elomatreb[m]
The Musicbrainz API can give you Spotify URLs for releases and potentially recordings, but the latter is quite rare
2024-11-29 33437, 2024
elomatreb[m]
(also note that since this channel is bridged to IRC, people might not see what you are replying to when you use the Discord reply feature)
2024-11-29 33439, 2024
monkey[m]
elomatreb[m]: Not really, I'm afraid. If the spotify ID is part of the listen data sent by a user (i.e. not on recommendation playlists we create) we use it, otherwise we just use the Spotify search API
2024-11-29 33456, 2024
monkey[m]
letoseldon: However once you do get a recommendation playlist, you can export it to Spotify.
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To get the recording MBID, either: copy the link of the listen track title OR got the the '...' menu on the right and click on "inspect listen", look for "recording_mbid"
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monkey[m]
P.S: these labs.api.listenbrainz endpoints can be called programatically and be sent a JSON object. Just add "/json" to the end of either of those endpoints
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letoseldon[m]
Oooooooh! That's so great! Exactly what I need!
2024-11-29 33401, 2024
letoseldon[m]
Thank you!
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lazybookwyrm[m]
If you do try to Export to Spotify you may need to copy the playlist to your profile then remove the description to get the export to work
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lazybookwyrm[m]
The Weekly Exploration's description is too long and makes the export error
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lazybookwyrm[m]
Actually, it looks like the descriptions on all of them are too long except the Daily Jams playlist
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letoseldon[m]
Good to know! Thank you.
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lazybookwyrm[m]
Thought this was funny
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rustynova[m]
Oh right! I forgot I needed to add a "today in history" feature.
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aerozol[m]
monkey: Iām going to do a PR for the docs this weekend so I want to clarify, daily playlists run at global midnight? Not based on user settings? Weekly ones generate based on user settings/when that userās Monday morning is
2024-11-29 33453, 2024
aerozol[m]
Though I assume a PR will be seen and fixed by mayhem, Iām guessing, who I should have probably asked in the first place. I forgot that those playlists are his bebe
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lazybookwyrm[m]
If you're looking at adding when the playlist generates to the description for the daily playlists, maybe add it outside of the annotation? Since that's what's breaking Spotify imports for all the other playlists. Or make a disclaimer that you have to delete the annotation to actually import it to Spotify
2024-11-29 33401, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
Of course the optimal solution is to just truncate the annotation when it's sent to Spotify, but if you're just editing the annotation text in the meantime
2024-11-29 33459, 2024
letoseldon[m]
Well, I was able to replace the deprecated Spotify recommendation endpoint with a solution that uses ListenBrainz. Thank you all for your help! I'm looking forward to seeing the recommendations getting refined as I continue to listen to music. š
