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                indeed
     
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                reosarevok: Roger that
     
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                    zas
                outsidecontext: nope, but it will be simpler to just lowercase the whole name
     
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                    outsidecontext
                ok, yes. got it
     
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                whoever invented uppercase/lowercase should burn in hell
     
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                    ROpdebee
                reosarevok: that's weird
     
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                    monkey
                alastairp: Hi! I forgot to say yesterday that I updated beta.LB. Almost everything is working. There's still one last couple of changes required, as the recommendations page is currently broken.
     
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                    monkey
                However, that does allow us to check out what happens if there are no global props. Now we see an error message toast pop up
     
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                    zas
                ruaok: about williams replacement, what about AX51 with 2x8TB (the model just under is 2x2TB)?
     
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                    zas
                
     
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                    alastairp
                monkey: cool, thanks
     
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                    alastairp
                just going to get a haircut, let's follow this up later
     
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                    zas
                
     
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                    zas
                and much more cores
     
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                    zas
                disks are HDDs with a lot of cache (always on such capacities)
     
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                    ruaok
                williams is not CPU constrained from what I see, yes?
     
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                    zas
                nope, but that's not a downgrade cpu-wise
     
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                    ruaok
                right. I'm just trying to get a picture of what williams is doing now.
     
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                    ruaok
                has spare ram too, so should be fine.
     
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                    zas
                yes, basically we need more diskspace, same or better cpu/ram/network
     
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                    zas
                the price is on par too
     
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                    ruaok
                ok, sounds good for williams replacement.
     
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                    ruaok
                which server should be replaced?
     
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                    zas
                we were thinking about boingo, but let me check
     
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                    ruaok
                for me that was a random example.
     
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                    zas
                it is one of the older server
     
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                    ruaok
                any of the early servers (ludwig -> boingo) come to mind.
     
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                    ruaok
                exactly.
     
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                    zas
                PX61-SSD with hardware raid
     
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                    zas
                it was paired with serge
     
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                    zas
                those are more about ram/cpu than disks
     
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                    ruaok
                prince/boingo you mean?
     
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                    ruaok
                since they are SSD and not NVMe, those are good canidates, methinks.
     
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                    ruaok
                prince is quite ilde.
     
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                    ruaok
                boingo is not busy either.
     
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                    ruaok
                I think we should move prince to boingo.
     
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                    zas
                candidates: prince, boingo, zappa, trille
     
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                    ruaok
                I vote prince, because SSD.
     
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                    zas
                ok
     
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                    ruaok
                everthing else is the same.
     
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                    monkey
                On a side note, I jsut updated the hosting wiki and moved lemmy and KISS accordingly.
     
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                    zas
                imho we can drop hardware raid
     
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                    ruaok
                zas: agreed.
     
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                    zas
                so a better cpu, SSD >= 512gb, and 128gb ram would be ideal
     
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                    ruaok
                AX41-NVME or AX51-NVME I would say.
     
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                    zas
                actually 64gb ram is enough
     
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                    ruaok
                ok, I was about to say. 128GB is overkill.
     
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                    zas
                AX51 is ECC ram, bigger SSDs
     
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                    ruaok
                ok, duh. lets do that.
     
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                    zas
                
     
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                    lucifer
                looks prince and williams got interchanged.
     
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                    zas
                prince replacement is the targetted future williams (storage)
     
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                    lucifer
                ah ok!
     
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                    zas
                we move prince stuff to another server (boingo can handled it I think)
     
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                    zas
                order AX51 + 2x8TB, setup, move williams stuff to it
     
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                    zas
                then decommission williams, and replace by AX51-NVME, move stuff from boingo to it
     
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                    zas
                and we do boingo after that?
     
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                    ruaok
                sure.
     
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                    ruaok
                should I place the orders then?
     
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                    zas
                yup
     
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                    ruaok
                ok
     
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                    zas
                so we replace 3 servers, upgrade hardware & software
     
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                    ruaok
                should I order the 3rd one now or wait? I'm inclined to wait a bit.
     
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                    zas
                according to delays I would say let's order all at once, and manage appointments
     
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                    zas
                up to about 24-26 workdays for AX51-NVME in Germany
     
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                    zas
                I hope it will be faster...
     
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                    ruaok
                lucifer: alastairp: server upgrades ordered. might take quite some time. we'll keep y'all posted.
     
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                    lucifer
                👍
     
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                    lucifer
                ruaok: LB-902 was probably due to ip issue. should i resolve?
     
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                    ruaok
                sure.
     
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                    lucifer
                monkey: LB-906
     
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                    ruaok
                money arrived before confirmation arrived. awesome. :)
     
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                    monkey
                lucifer: Thanks ! ï can reproduce this if I have both spotify and youtube services disconnected
     
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                    lucifer
                ruaok: lol, sounds awesome. we have UPI here which works similarly, near instant domestic money transfer.
     
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                    monkey
                I'll comment on the ticket
     
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                    lucifer
                thanks!
     
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                    monkey
                The user is still going to see that scary message when connecting youtube?
     
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                    lucifer
                yeah
     
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                    ruaok
                zas: no rejections this time!
     
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                    zas
                good :)
     
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                    lucifer
                zas: is the kiss load check working as expected?
     
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                    zas
                nope, no idea why (yet)
     
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                    ruaok
                wow, wise is sending money faster than I can order the payments. modern times, finally!
     
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                    zas
                I suspect a nagios plugin compatibility issue
     
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                    lucifer
                iirc this happened with j5 cluster as well which is on Ubuntu 20.04
     
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                    zas
                
     
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                    zas
                defaults are damn low...
     
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                    ruaok
                off by 100
     
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                    alastairp
                monkey: what bike stuff were we looking for in the office last week? Just the patch kit?
     
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                    monkey
                I don't think I was looking for anything…
     
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                    alastairp
                will pick one up just in case
     
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                    alastairp
                you sure were looking in the bookshelf though
     
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                    ruaok
                monkey: got invoice?
     
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                    monkey
                Ah, yes, but not for me IIRC
     
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                    monkey
                Err, will do in 10, ruaok
     
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                    ruaok
                ok, happy to not pay you monkey
     
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                    ruaok
                oh eh. 🤣
     
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                    monkey
                I hope you're paying me euros and not monkeys…
     
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                    ruaok
                I can pay bananas, its says. compromise?
     
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                    ruaok
                always a fun half hour on the first of the month: shovel out $30k as fast as I can. lol.
     
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                    zas
                not sure how to fix the check load issue, but if we use defaults params it will break a lot of things (-r divides the load value by number of cpus)
     
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                    zas
                I'd rather define our own command keeping historic behavior
     
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                    lucifer
                !m zas
     
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                    BrainzBot
                You're doing good work, zas!
     
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                    zas
                I updated setup script to set our own default check_load command
     
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                    lucifer
                ruaok: spark incremental dump fix deployed. i added back the functionality to import all missing dumps but not fail if it can't. weil add the errors next.
     
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                    ruaok
                nice.
     
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                    lucifer
                ruaok, what should happen if multiple dumps are being imported and some of them fail. send one mail to observability with imported ones and one mail to exceptions with the errors?
     
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                    ruaok
                forget sending things to observability, we should aim to get rid of it.
     
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                    ruaok
                always send to exceptions.
     
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                    ruaok
                I'd say do as much as possible and report if one or more dumps fail to the exception list.
     
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                    lucifer
                if everything goes right then no mail?
     
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                    lucifer
                btw who has access to observability, i am not sure if we even check it so i am fine with removing it
     
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                    ruaok
                correct.
     
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                    ruaok
                observability is the wrong concept. Tell us when things work, but keep quiet when they fail?
     
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                    ruaok
                lets remove it.
     
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                    lucifer
                indeed. +1
     
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                    monkey
                And for alastairp too: regarding #1420: I fixed the recommendation page blueprint and updated beta.LB
     
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                    monkey
                Everything is working now (AFAICT)
     
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                reosarevok: No, that was a mistake, the code of my local master branch is somehow mixed with the UI change I did last week :) I've fixed it and waiting for the tests
     
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                    reosarevok
                Ok :)
     
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                Also it seems travis bot wasn't moved here? I didn't see a notification when I opened the PR
     
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                I think it was but it's down again
     
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                    reosarevok
                Lemme see
     
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