riksucks: letting the user that made a recommendation to delete it should be sufficient for now methinks.
2021-09-01 24441, 2021
lucifer
allowing other users to hide those events from feed is a different feature imo.
2021-09-01 24432, 2021
riksucks
ohh okay, so the followers won't delete it, but the one who made the recommendation will, I see
2021-09-01 24432, 2021
riksucks
>allowing other users to hide is different
2021-09-01 24432, 2021
riksucks
I see, I kind of misunderstood the purpose, the ticket makes more sense now. Thank you
2021-09-01 24402, 2021
lucifer
>so the followers won't delete it, but the one who made the recommendation will
2021-09-01 24403, 2021
lucifer
yup
2021-09-01 24448, 2021
riksucks
Also, idk if its an issue only I am having, but the LB frontend locally won't talk with the backend APIs properly. It would always say how the auth token is invalid. So I am resorting to curl and postman to test things out. Is this some common issue or does it seem to only affect me here?
2021-09-01 24403, 2021
lucifer
there's a setting in config.py file to set whether the app should connect to LB prod or your local version.
2021-09-01 24428, 2021
riksucks
ahh I see, I should have checked there, sorry for the trouble
this should hopefully cover everything needed to set up the dev env. if you find something missing, we should add it there
2021-09-01 24428, 2021
lucifer
due to some reason, the wrong version of mbdata was installed in indexer on bono. strange, running reindex now.
2021-09-01 24435, 2021
lucifer
reosarevok: ^
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lucifer
instrument worked.
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reosarevok
lucifer: oh yeah, I got that locally at first too
2021-09-01 24433, 2021
reosarevok
Dunno why
2021-09-01 24451, 2021
reosarevok
Are you running a full one now?
2021-09-01 24449, 2021
lucifer
reosarevok: yes. full reindex.
2021-09-01 24455, 2021
reosarevok
Thanks
2021-09-01 24459, 2021
reosarevok
Guess that'll take a while :D
2021-09-01 24420, 2021
lucifer
place/event/intrument completed so far. yup indeed.
2021-09-01 24424, 2021
reosarevok
Do we have a good way to check it worked fine?
2021-09-01 24447, 2021
reosarevok
I guess "no errors" is a good start, but I mean, that they actually look like they should as well
2021-09-01 24448, 2021
lucifer
yvanzo might?
2021-09-01 24420, 2021
lucifer
i think we could run it in test.mb and see make some chagnes there observe if they show up in search
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ruaok waves
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ruaok
if you get your invoice in in the next 5 minutes, I'll pay it.
2021-09-01 24450, 2021
ruaok
otherwise #vacation for the rest of the day
2021-09-01 24418, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
ruaok I started work on 30th September, right😃
2021-09-01 24406, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
August**
2021-09-01 24408, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
Hah!
2021-09-01 24448, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
I'll let you enjoy your #vacations 💯
2021-09-01 24410, 2021
ruaok
thanks!
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reosarevok
lucifer: how is that going? :)
2021-09-01 24422, 2021
lucifer
reosarevok: i had gone away for a bit. didn't get the chance to trigger reindex for all entities. started reindexing all now.
2021-09-01 24457, 2021
reosarevok
Ok :)
2021-09-01 24452, 2021
monkey
akshaaatt[m]: I for one think it's a good idea to work on a mockup like this and being able to host it and get feedback!
2021-09-01 24452, 2021
monkey
In my experience it's easier to seek feedback fewer times but on designs that are well advanced, rather than more regular feedback every time something changes in the mockup. (it's easier to integrate a few waves of feedback than continuous feedback)
yes indeed. also, as much as it pains me to say this. it's much easier to see how the mockup if it's made like it will look on the screen, preliminary paper scetches are god for ideas, but bad for getting "how does this mockup look2 type feedback
2021-09-01 24400, 2021
CatQuest
for exmple, I need full colour to be able to ake judgement
2021-09-01 24432, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
Agreed
2021-09-01 24453, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
But I found the paper sketches really helpful for myself
2021-09-01 24422, 2021
CatQuest
absolutely. it's a very good idea
2021-09-01 24435, 2021
CatQuest
i do those myelf
2021-09-01 24457, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
I really think that coming up with a design is really hard. I never used to think about this until 2-3 years back because it comes naturally to me. But when I explored recently, people have a designated job for this!
2021-09-01 24400, 2021
CatQuest
trying to think about how f.ex. instrument families evolved to
2021-09-01 24410, 2021
akshaaatt[m]
Right
2021-09-01 24434, 2021
CatQuest
to me the most important thing is that edit screns don't change *too* much
2021-09-01 24446, 2021
CatQuest
and that good ideas/scripts get implemented as well
2021-09-01 24403, 2021
CatQuest
like batch adding aliases, expand/collaps releases script of bitmap's
2021-09-01 24424, 2021
CatQuest
having front cover art iamges more palces
2021-09-01 24429, 2021
CatQuest
more data aobut releases more places
2021-09-01 24440, 2021
CatQuest
having "edit" links more palces
2021-09-01 24408, 2021
CatQuest
it'd be really cool if I could go directly to the "edit" screen in a search result for example
2021-09-01 24449, 2021
CatQuest
and making this more mobile friendly. essentially changing the screen-soze wil make things still logical
2021-09-01 24453, 2021
CatQuest
size*
2021-09-01 24415, 2021
CatQuest
while at the same time utilising desktop's wide screen space better
The AB update sounds like a huge step, I'm always wondering if there's a way to mark recordings that are variations of the same theme, not sure if this will help, gonna play with it a little bit
2021-09-01 24433, 2021
alastairp
yyoung[m]: this won't work with variations, we don't have enough information in the acousticbrainz data to identify that
2021-09-01 24453, 2021
yyoung[m]
Oh, OK :)
2021-09-01 24407, 2021
alastairp
there's a subbranch of this area of research called "cover song identification", which mostly works with identifying different recordings of the same song (i.e. live/studio/cover)
2021-09-01 24445, 2021
alastairp
but variations is interesting... you'd probably have to identify the melody, and then on top of that decide what a "variation" actually means
2021-09-01 24432, 2021
yyoung[m]
For example, a slower or softer version, or an arrangement?
2021-09-01 24404, 2021
alastairp
cover song identification should help with slower or acoustic versions
2021-09-01 24421, 2021
alastairp
different arrangements - often as long as the general chord structure is the same it should also work
2021-09-01 24405, 2021
yyoung[m]
Yes, at long as we can identify melodies that would be near success
2021-09-01 24452, 2021
yyoung[m]
Why are there 2 "MFCCs"s?
2021-09-01 24451, 2021
alastairp
the one that ends with w is weighted
2021-09-01 24417, 2021
alastairp
so they're normalised to have values between 0 and 1
2021-09-01 24437, 2021
alastairp
ideally this means that things that are otherwise the same, but one is louder than the other will still appear as identical
2021-09-01 24459, 2021
alastairp
because if we didn't weight them, it would identify them as "different", because the numbers that it compares would be different
2021-09-01 24412, 2021
yyoung[m]
I mean, the last one in the list is also "MFCCs", so there're MFCCs, MFCCs(weighted), MFCCs
I am stupid. I check this query on artist without urls (:
2021-09-01 24438, 2021
yyoung[m]
I'm curious about how instrument similarity is measured 🤔
2021-09-01 24424, 2021
alastairp
yyoung[m]: this name is a bit misleading, and something that we can improve
2021-09-01 24444, 2021
alastairp
we have a machine learning algorithm which tries to identify if a recording is "instrumental" (i.e. doesn't have human vocals)
2021-09-01 24423, 2021
yyoung[m]
Right, and that's not quite accurate according to my testing :)
2021-09-01 24434, 2021
alastairp
and the result is something like "81% instrumental, 19% vocal"
2021-09-01 24453, 2021
alastairp
and then the idea is that a recording which is identified as 80.5% instrumental, 19.5% vocal would be "similar"
2021-09-01 24421, 2021
alastairp
but yes, of course there is also the question of if the underlying model for instrumental/vocal is good
2021-09-01 24429, 2021
yyoung[m]
Ah that's misleading indeed :D
2021-09-01 24451, 2021
yyoung[m]
And I'm not sure if this metrics makes any sense
2021-09-01 24459, 2021
alastairp
in this case, perhaps it doesn't make too much sense to use such a complex "similarity" metric for this. in reality you probably just want to group all items with a "instrumental" % of > 70% into a single group
2021-09-01 24408, 2021
alastairp
however
2021-09-01 24430, 2021
alastairp
next step is to look and see if it makes sense to "combine" these metrics and use more than one at a time
2021-09-01 24455, 2021
alastairp
perhaps it makes sense to be able to search based on 1 similarity and then filter based on another?
2021-09-01 24433, 2021
yyoung[m]
It's already beyond my expectation though, seeing it shows 3 songs I've heard before
2021-09-01 24442, 2021
yyoung[m]
Oh nice, seems it can identify short versions
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alastairp
yyoung[m]: if you have ideas about what to do with it, then let us know! we made the feature but don't know what to do with it
2021-09-01 24450, 2021
alastairp
now that the similarity is finished, I can work on dumps for MrClon!
2021-09-01 24451, 2021
MrClon
Cool!
2021-09-01 24417, 2021
BrainzGit
[bookbrainz-site] 14MonkeyDo merged pull request #626 (03master…mark-removed-entity-revision): BB-585: Revisions should clearly mark removed entities https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
