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reosarevok
Next topic: "React server-side-rendering for all brainzes"
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CatQuest
wait so I'm mirrored to you? wtf
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Freso
My Zoom has lost connection to audio device. Brb.
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CatQuest
k
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reosarevok
No, actually somehow the fish thing was upside down itself :D
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reosarevok
I dunno
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reosarevok
But we could read it in the end :)
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CatQuest
freso is mirrored in the stream (and I noticed so am I) but you and rob are the same as the phone...
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CatQuest
no. how cna the fish be upside down whne i'm holding it right side up
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Freso
CatQuest: It’s a Zoom setting.
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CatQuest
oh no
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CatQuest
Freso: where
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Freso
Video
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rdswift
You can change the mirroring in the Settings -> Video section.
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Freso
ruaok: Lost my co-host when I restarted Zoom
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CatQuest
take in mind that I'm on the phone. i see no such settings
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Freso
CatQuest: No idea then :\ I’ve only used desktop app.
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ruaok
fixed
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rdswift
Me too.
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CatQuest
i susspect i have to leave the chat in oder to access settings :/ so i'll do it later
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yyoung[m]
That plan sounds good to me
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yyoung[m]
We definitely need to add more API endpoints
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CatQuest
hydrate?! uh
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monkey
Hydrate = enhance htlm with react component javascript
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CatQuest
yea that's longer but much more clear
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monkey
The HTML is sent first to the browser and is not JS-interactive, then React takes over end updates the HTML
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reosarevok
That's how we for example update tag votes live without reloading the page
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CatQuest
hm
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yyoung[m]
JSON itself doesn't contain types though
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monkey
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yyoung[m]
ASAIK if we want to perserve types during transmission, something else has to be used, e.g. Protobuf
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monkey
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alastairp
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CatQuest
facebook isn't stable
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CatQuest
(apparently instagram and fb has been unstable recently)
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Freso
Facebook is reasonably stable when they don’t go and delete their uplink data. 🙃
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CatQuest
:D
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shivam-kapila
Lol
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CatQuest
*all* of it?
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Freso
CatQuest: Was that for the fb comment or for summit?
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CatQuest
the summit. using react/js for *all* of it and no html
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Freso
As Alastair said, HTML is obviously still going to be there. :) It’ll just be in React templates instead of Jinja ones.
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CatQuest
well the only thing i care about is that it still redners in old browsers
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CatQuest
:)
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reosarevok
This would help for that, probably
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CatQuest
and it seems most of mb does still
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CatQuest
well then it's 👍
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lucifer
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ruaok
are those mapped MBIDs??
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lucifer
yup
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ruaok
WOOOOHOOOO
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ruaok
beat monkey to it!
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BrainzGit
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alastairp
lucifer: stop working
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monkey
❤️ lucifer
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shivam-kapila
wow lucifer
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Freso
!m lucifer
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, lucifer!
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lucifer
this was a small change so did it but yup stopping now.
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alastairp
who created the 2020 notes document? Freso reosarevok ruaok?
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Freso
I don’t think it was me, but I’ll check.
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alastairp
(linked to from the schedule spreadsheet, I don't have a "it's in folder x" link, which means I didn't do it
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ruaok
owned by param, alastairp
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Freso
zas: Ping?
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reosarevok
New topic is "Documenting and learning our services/components better"
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Freso
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Freso
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alastairp
Freso: where was that?
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alastairp
ah. the spreadsheet still linked to the 2020 one
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Freso
Oh.
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alastairp
no prob. will migrate to that
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Freso
Can’t say we ain’t great at keeping doc(umentation)s updated. 🙃
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monkey
Docathons would be good
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CatQuest
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CatQuest
when it comes to docs. i don't mind helping writing something. but i need to be told "what i shoudl do"
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CatQuest
(also most database entry type docs are probably done?)
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yvanzo
who is documenting the outcome of this session?
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alastairp
me!
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yvanzo
thank you!
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CatQuest
!m alastairp
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, alastairp!
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CatQuest
it's important that rob's job isn't a spof
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Freso
Feel free to make (lots! of) tickets for any documentation you find missing. :)
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ruaok waves at kepstin
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CatQuest
nghh don't super agree (lb documentation contra mb sure, but there is still things on listenbrainz)
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CatQuest
on listenbrainz eventually remember that "merging listens and correcting data" thing
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reosarevok
Well, it's still a lot easier, but yes, we'll certainly need some guides
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CatQuest
yes more organised and all documentation in one palce
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CatQuest
exactly
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reosarevok
Because even for "easy" things, some people *will* get confused
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CatQuest
exactly
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CatQuest
get new users in and ask thme. on the community.
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CatQuest
maybe having one topic each for each project. that makes sense to me
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alastairp
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Freso
CatQuest: We’re currently talking about syswiki, not general documentation :)
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CatQuest
well yes
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CatQuest
my point still stands kinda? :D
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CatQuest
(idk)
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alastairp
we were still talking about documentation, so I think it's a good thing to bring up
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CatQuest
ARCG how do you turn of "smart seach" on jira. it's fucking up my search terms
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CatQuest
i keep trying ot search for documentation search and it wants to use musicbainz search server ARG
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CatQuest
AADASFGDAG
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CatQuest
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BrainzBot
MBS-10290: Consider moving doc search away from custom Google search
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reosarevok
New topic "Making contribution easier for new contributors"
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CatQuest
what sor of osntribution though. database entry? developer?
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rdswift
Enter and find issues in ONE place, or it will be confusing. That's currently a problem with Picard plugins and documentation issues.
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monkey
+1 to that
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Freso
Tickets… in Jira that is :D
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rdswift
Can we somehow redirect the github issues link to Jira?
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CatQuest
ins't there already a github -> jira thing
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Freso
There’s some integration to auto link "MBS-123" to Jira.
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BrainzBot
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Freso
But I don’t think there’s a redirect option directly.
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rdswift
That's unfortunate.
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CatQuest
i think we shoudl ahve a spesific test ticket for these situiations becasue else it's a bit strange
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CatQuest
for a second i was like "whait what" ?
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kepstin
might be best to make a "pinned" issue in github telling people how to find issues in jira, then limit issue creation permissions
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CatQuest
hm
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alastairp
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alastairp
kepstin: we have turned issues off, the tab doesn't exist
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CatQuest
hi kepstin btw <-- (see screen)
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monkey
I think that's acceptable alastairp
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alastairp
but perhaps we should make it clearer in the README if it's not
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CatQuest
always a good idea to make things cleaer
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alastairp
I agree that the "Contributing" section in LB's readme is very offputting to new developers, definitely something to be improved!
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alastairp
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yyoung[m]
I'll perfer Jira since it's more flexible and powerful
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CatQuest
i prefer it because it works in my old browser :D (but also that i now know it and i don't know github at all)
