#metabrainz

Next topic: "React server-side-rendering for all brainzes"

wait so I'm mirrored to you? wtf

My Zoom has lost connection to audio device. Brb.

k

No, actually somehow the fish thing was upside down itself :D

I dunno

But we could read it in the end :)

freso is mirrored in the stream (and I noticed so am I) but you and rob are the same as the phone...

no. how cna the fish be upside down whne i'm holding it right side up

CatQuest: It’s a Zoom setting.

oh no

Freso: where

Video

You can change the mirroring in the Settings -> Video section.

ruaok: Lost my co-host when I restarted Zoom

take in mind that I'm on the phone. i see no such settings

CatQuest: No idea then :\ I’ve only used desktop app.

fixed

Me too.

i susspect i have to leave the chat in oder to access settings :/ so i'll do it later

That plan sounds good to me

We definitely need to add more API endpoints

hydrate?! uh

Hydrate = enhance htlm with react component javascript

yea that's longer but much more clear

The HTML is sent first to the browser and is not JS-interactive, then React takes over end updates the HTML

That's how we for example update tag votes live without reloading the page

hm

JSON itself doesn't contain types though

ASAIK if we want to perserve types during transmission, something else has to be used, e.g. Protobuf

facebook isn't stable

(apparently instagram and fb has been unstable recently)

Facebook is reasonably stable when they don’t go and delete their uplink data. 🙃

:D

Lol

*all* of it?

CatQuest: Was that for the fb comment or for summit?

the summit. using react/js for *all* of it and no html

As Alastair said, HTML is obviously still going to be there. :) It’ll just be in React templates instead of Jinja ones.

well the only thing i care about is that it still redners in old browsers

:)

This would help for that, probably

and it seems most of mb does still

well then it's 👍

ruaok: https://beta.listenbrainz.org/user/rob/ ;)

are those mapped MBIDs??

yup

WOOOOHOOOO

beat monkey to it!

[listenbrainz-server] 14amCap1712 opened pull request #1660 (03master…listen-mbid): Show mapped mbids on listens page if available https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...

lucifer: stop working

❤️ lucifer

wow lucifer

!m lucifer

You're doing good work, lucifer!

this was a small change so did it but yup stopping now.

who created the 2020 notes document? Freso reosarevok ruaok?

I don’t think it was me, but I’ll check.

(linked to from the schedule spreadsheet, I don't have a "it's in folder x" link, which means I didn't do it

owned by param, alastairp

zas: Ping?

New topic is "Documenting and learning our services/components better"

alastairp: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MdK9y1fSa5A... was not working for you?

(That’s the one linked from https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Summit/21 )

Freso: where was that?

ah. the spreadsheet still linked to the 2020 one

Oh.

no prob. will migrate to that

Can’t say we ain’t great at keeping doc(umentation)s updated. 🙃

Docathons would be good

--> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs <--

when it comes to docs. i don't mind helping writing something. but i need to be told "what i shoudl do"

(also most database entry type docs are probably done?)

who is documenting the outcome of this session?

me!

thank you!

!m alastairp

You're doing good work, alastairp!

it's important that rob's job isn't a spof

Feel free to make (lots! of) tickets for any documentation you find missing. :)

nghh don't super agree (lb documentation contra mb sure, but there is still things on listenbrainz)

on listenbrainz eventually remember that "merging listens and correcting data" thing

Well, it's still a lot easier, but yes, we'll certainly need some guides

yes more organised and all documentation in one palce

exactly

Because even for "easy" things, some people *will* get confused

exactly

get new users in and ask thme. on the community.

maybe having one topic each for each project. that makes sense to me

-> https://musicbrainz.org/search?type=doc&que... uses google subsite search

CatQuest: We’re currently talking about syswiki, not general documentation :)

well yes

my point still stands kinda? :D

(idk)

we were still talking about documentation, so I think it's a good thing to bring up

ARCG how do you turn of "smart seach" on jira. it's fucking up my search terms

i keep trying ot search for documentation search and it wants to use musicbainz search server ARG

AADASFGDAG

HERE https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-10290

MBS-10290: Consider moving doc search away from custom Google search

New topic "Making contribution easier for new contributors"

what sor of osntribution though. database entry? developer?

Enter and find issues in ONE place, or it will be confusing. That's currently a problem with Picard plugins and documentation issues.

+1 to that

Tickets… in Jira that is :D

Can we somehow redirect the github issues link to Jira?

ins't there already a github -> jira thing

There’s some integration to auto link "MBS-123" to Jira.

MBS-123: Text field is empty when editing an alias https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-123

But I don’t think there’s a redirect option directly.

That's unfortunate.

i think we shoudl ahve a spesific test ticket for these situiations becasue else it's a bit strange

for a second i was like "whait what" ?

might be best to make a "pinned" issue in github telling people how to find issues in jira, then limit issue creation permissions

hm

do we think that it's OK for our README to point to https://listenbrainz.readthedocs.io/en/producti... and have all documentation there?

kepstin: we have turned issues off, the tab doesn't exist

hi kepstin btw <-- (see screen)

I think that's acceptable alastairp

but perhaps we should make it clearer in the README if it's not

always a good idea to make things cleaer

I agree that the "Contributing" section in LB's readme is very offputting to new developers, definitely something to be improved!

I'll perfer Jira since it's more flexible and powerful

i prefer it because it works in my old browser :D (but also that i now know it and i don't know github at all)