#metabrainz

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      • mayhem
        I didnt say it was fixed yet.
      • 2022-02-07 03808, 2022

      • mayhem
        now fixed
      • 2022-02-07 03825, 2022

      • alastairp
        atj: \o/ welcome
      • 2022-02-07 03826, 2022

      • CatQuest
        yay
      • 2022-02-07 03836, 2022

      • atj
        thanks
      • 2022-02-07 03845, 2022

      • CatQuest
        hmmmm
      • 2022-02-07 03850, 2022

      • atj
        bonus points if you can work out where the picture was taken
      • 2022-02-07 03808, 2022

      • mayhem
        a bit harder now that its cropped. :)
      • 2022-02-07 03817, 2022

      • alastairp
        and b&w
      • 2022-02-07 03827, 2022

      • atj
        yes, although I was still slightly disturbed how quickly you got it :)
      • 2022-02-07 03829, 2022

      • alastairp
        at a guess I'd say inside a building, which perhaps I know quite well
      • 2022-02-07 03845, 2022

      • CatQuest
        nah i'd say tat outside
      • 2022-02-07 03850, 2022

      • CatQuest
        i see a roof and trees
      • 2022-02-07 03813, 2022

      • Freso
        <BANG>
      • 2022-02-07 03813, 2022

      • Freso
        It’s Periodic Table Monday!
      • 2022-02-07 03813, 2022

      • Freso
      • 2022-02-07 03813, 2022

      • Freso
        People up for reviews: mayhem, lucifer, alastairp, yvanzo, zas, bitmap, akshaaatt, monkey, reosarevok, atj, CatQuest, Freso – anyone else who’d like to give review, let me know ASAP. :)
      • 2022-02-07 03813, 2022

      • Freso
        (No mailed in reviews.)
      • 2022-02-07 03814, 2022

      • Freso
        mayhem: Go!
      • 2022-02-07 03817, 2022

      • mayhem
        damn, maps wont let me place a pin inside the building. I was going to point to the exact spot the picture was taken from.
      • 2022-02-07 03818, 2022

      • mayhem
        hi all!
      • 2022-02-07 03837, 2022

      • mayhem
        I wanted to go first and welcome atj to our team!
      • 2022-02-07 03844, 2022

      • CatQuest
        👏
      • 2022-02-07 03849, 2022

      • monkey
        Welcome !
      • 2022-02-07 03850, 2022

      • Freso
        👋
      • 2022-02-07 03853, 2022

      • mayhem
        You know atj -- he's been helping us for months now.
      • 2022-02-07 03854, 2022

      • zas
        atj: welcome !!
      • 2022-02-07 03802, 2022

      • mayhem
        thank you for that!
      • 2022-02-07 03802, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Welcome atj! 💯🔥
      • 2022-02-07 03803, 2022

      • CatQuest
        zas hi
      • 2022-02-07 03812, 2022

      • atj
        thanks everyone
      • 2022-02-07 03815, 2022

      • CatQuest
        welcome atj!
      • 2022-02-07 03822, 2022

      • mayhem
        and he wanted to jump in a bit more and approached me about giving some of his time pro bono
      • 2022-02-07 03829, 2022

      • bitmap
        atj: welcome!
      • 2022-02-07 03841, 2022

      • mayhem
        in order to help Zas -- because zas has too much stuff to do and atj saw that.
      • 2022-02-07 03846, 2022

      • monkey
        "Wow, the sysadmin team doubled in size"
      • 2022-02-07 03854, 2022

      • CatQuest
        <3
      • 2022-02-07 03832, 2022

      • mayhem
        this is also for the clarification of our privacy policy -- I wanted to be able to write a 1GBP value contract so that we can give atj access to our infrastructure and not violate our privacy policy.
      • 2022-02-07 03805, 2022

      • mayhem
        that said, I should caution that atj will not be spending as much time on the project as others here -- he still has a day job.
      • 2022-02-07 03821, 2022

      • mayhem
        so, welcome atj!
      • 2022-02-07 03823, 2022

      • CatQuest
        soo.. about the time he's been spending already then?
      • 2022-02-07 03827, 2022

      • CatQuest
        basiclaly al lthe time here :D
      • 2022-02-07 03830, 2022

      • mayhem
        wanna say anything atj?
      • 2022-02-07 03812, 2022

      • atj
        thanks to everyone for making me feel so welcome, and thanks in particular to mayhem and zas for being receptive to my offer and making the process very straightforward
      • 2022-02-07 03829, 2022

      • mayhem
        yes, that was quite easy!
      • 2022-02-07 03842, 2022

      • mayhem
        atj: when you're done, pick someone else for reviews. :)
      • 2022-02-07 03847, 2022

      • mayhem
        I'll take my turn in due time.
      • 2022-02-07 03810, 2022

      • atj
        I've wanted to help out on the infra side for some time, but that wasn't possible due to the privacy issues as mentioned by mayhem, so this seemed like a good solution.
      • 2022-02-07 03816, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Oooh, welcome atj
      • 2022-02-07 03858, 2022

      • atj
        anyway, I have some time with zas tomorrow and I've been reading the syswiki, but it's going to take me some time to become familiar with how things work etc.
      • 2022-02-07 03853, 2022

      • atj
        so don't expect me to be too helpful for a while. My main concern at this stage is not making *more* work for zas :)
      • 2022-02-07 03803, 2022

      • zas
        we planned a meeting at 11:00 CET tomorrow, in order to give atj a wide view of our infrastructure
      • 2022-02-07 03831, 2022

      • mayhem
        akshaaatt, you might consider attending as well.
      • 2022-02-07 03835, 2022

      • mayhem
        perhaps even reosarevok.
      • 2022-02-07 03840, 2022

      • mayhem runs away
      • 2022-02-07 03841, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Sure thing!!
      • 2022-02-07 03841, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Can't hurt
      • 2022-02-07 03811, 2022

      • CatQuest will stay out of the way
      • 2022-02-07 03830, 2022

      • CatQuest will be helpfull by staying out of the way
      • 2022-02-07 03833, 2022

      • CatQuest
        :D
      • 2022-02-07 03838, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Maybe I can find things that need documenting and make more work for zas ;p
      • 2022-02-07 03846, 2022

      • atj
        I think that's it really, I'm just looking forward to being able to work closer with everyone and hopefully make peoples lives easier.
      • 2022-02-07 03847, 2022

      • CatQuest
        nooo
      • 2022-02-07 03801, 2022

      • mayhem
        atj: <3
      • 2022-02-07 03807, 2022

      • reosarevok
        ^ what he said
      • 2022-02-07 03810, 2022

      • CatQuest
        awesome!
      • 2022-02-07 03823, 2022

      • Freso
        atj: Pick someone else to go after you. :)
      • 2022-02-07 03842, 2022

      • atj
        lucifer: you're up :)
      • 2022-02-07 03846, 2022

      • lucifer
        hi all!
      • 2022-02-07 03851, 2022

      • CatQuest
        hi!!
      • 2022-02-07 03815, 2022

      • lucifer
        I worked with alastairp last week to finalize and deploy the last bits of user_id stuff.
      • 2022-02-07 03816, 2022

      • Freso
        (Still up: alastairp, yvanzo, mayhem, zas, bitmap, akshaaatt, monkey, reosarevok, CatQuest, Freso – anyone else who’d like to give review, let me know ASAP. :))
      • 2022-02-07 03859, 2022

      • lucifer
        no manual intervention is needed now when a user wants their musicbrainz user name to be changed.
      • 2022-02-07 03811, 2022

      • alastairp
        🎉
      • 2022-02-07 03822, 2022

      • Freso
        👏
      • 2022-02-07 03825, 2022

      • monkey should follow suit with BookBrainz
      • 2022-02-07 03825, 2022

      • mayhem
        yess!
      • 2022-02-07 03838, 2022

      • reosarevok
        We tested it, it works!
      • 2022-02-07 03848, 2022

      • reosarevok
        lucifer is now lucifer!
      • 2022-02-07 03848, 2022

      • CatQuest bets they can break it
      • 2022-02-07 03851, 2022

      • CatQuest will not
      • 2022-02-07 03805, 2022

      • CatQuest
        :D
      • 2022-02-07 03823, 2022

      • lucifer
        I worked on porting the recording similarity queries to spark and had a few discussions about it with mayhem.
      • 2022-02-07 03838, 2022

      • mayhem
        good job moving it to spark so fast!
      • 2022-02-07 03856, 2022

      • lucifer
        also reviewed a couple of CB PRs for Ansh.
      • 2022-02-07 03809, 2022

      • lucifer
        thank you for the contributions, Ansh !
      • 2022-02-07 03831, 2022

      • lucifer
        there were some stale CB PRs too which I picked up yesterday and finished.
      • 2022-02-07 03844, 2022

      • alastairp
        ! great!
      • 2022-02-07 03800, 2022

      • lucifer
        other than that dealt with bugs resulting from user id deployment.
      • 2022-02-07 03803, 2022

      • reosarevok
        !m lucifer
      • 2022-02-07 03803, 2022

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, lucifer!
      • 2022-02-07 03806, 2022

      • lucifer
        that's it for me.
      • 2022-02-07 03810, 2022

      • lucifer
        alastairp: next?
      • 2022-02-07 03813, 2022

      • alastairp
        hi
      • 2022-02-07 03837, 2022

      • alastairp
        as lucifer said, we rolled out the last of the user id stuff, and also merged and released all of the documentation that was worked on over doc week
      • 2022-02-07 03852, 2022

      • alastairp
        as a result, we got under 1 page of PRs!
      • 2022-02-07 03836, 2022

      • alastairp
        with monkey we fixed a bug in the format of playlists and how they're showed on LB
      • 2022-02-07 03836, 2022

      • lucifer
        :D
      • 2022-02-07 03814, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Wow, under 1 page of PRs
      • 2022-02-07 03817, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Maybe one day
      • 2022-02-07 03846, 2022

      • alastairp
        monkey, mayhem and I had a good discussion earlier in the week working out some next steps for MetaBrainz/RecommendationBrainz, the biggest result was deciding to stop work on AB, as we can see that it's not bringing us the kind of results that we want, and we think that we don't have the resources or experience to build it
      • 2022-02-07 03802, 2022

      • mayhem
        sad but true
      • 2022-02-07 03807, 2022

      • CatQuest
        :C
      • 2022-02-07 03812, 2022

      • alastairp
        so this turned into a discussion about what we can save from the project, and how we can continue to bring interesting recommendation tools to *Brainz
      • 2022-02-07 03833, 2022

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, GSoC Ideas List (lucifer), Google Fonts: ORG-51 (lucifer), git branches auto-deletion (yvanzo), Valentine’s Day meeting? (Freso)
      • 2022-02-07 03835, 2022

      • alastairp
        the big realisation being that for 90% of what we want to do, we have an amazing data resource in MB and LB
      • 2022-02-07 03817, 2022

      • alastairp
        the concept of AB works well for "the long tail", the stuff that isn't popular, but the amount of work to make this happen is wayyyyyy more than the easy stuff, so we want to focus on that first and see what comes out. monkey can talk a bit more about what he's been doing
      • 2022-02-07 03844, 2022

      • alastairp
        so off the back of that conversation, I started a few PRs to shut down some parts of AB (data submission), and drafted a blog post, and had a few discussions on the forum
      • 2022-02-07 03855, 2022

      • alastairp
        monkey: want to continue?
      • 2022-02-07 03859, 2022

      • monkey
        Sure thing
      • 2022-02-07 03804, 2022

      • monkey
        (Hello!)
      • 2022-02-07 03842, 2022

      • monkey
        One my side of this discussion, we talked about how to transfer some of how to tag recordings by mood in MusicBrainz, and how to make it easy and enticing for users to add tags/genres/moods in ListenBrainz.
      • 2022-02-07 03820, 2022

      • monkey
        I've been reading papers about mood classification and how it relates to music, as well as the research being done on music mood recognition.
      • 2022-02-07 03816, 2022

      • monkey
        It's a fascinating and complex subject matter. now I'm trying to apply all this and reduce it to a usable mood tagging interface that we can use in LB (and MB)
      • 2022-02-07 03859, 2022

      • monkey
        Apart from taht I also did a lot of PR Reviewing, and helping contributors with ongoing projects
      • 2022-02-07 03811, 2022

      • monkey
        Spent a bit of time on the design system
      • 2022-02-07 03838, 2022

      • monkey
        And we moved around some services in order to do some server maintenance
      • 2022-02-07 03859, 2022

      • monkey
        Apart from what has been mentioned before, that is all !
      • 2022-02-07 03800, 2022

      • alastairp
        oh, that's right
      • 2022-02-07 03808, 2022

      • monkey
        akshaaatt: go !
      • 2022-02-07 03814, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Hi everyone!
      • 2022-02-07 03850, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Last week I had a meeting with the MB team and we discussed how we need to revamp MB in small chunks for better reviews
      • 2022-02-07 03813, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        So I started to advance on that and along the way we integrated the design system into MB!
      • 2022-02-07 03844, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        https://www.npmjs.com/package/@metabrainz/design-… is available as an npm package now!
      • 2022-02-07 03826, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        After that I automated the release process and the some other configurations
      • 2022-02-07 03834, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Then*
      • 2022-02-07 03819, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        So far the majority of the work is done and we can start relaxing and simply adding small components which is great!
      • 2022-02-07 03850, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Then I had some discussion with yellowhatpro who has been working on the android app lately
      • 2022-02-07 03805, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Great work going on!
      • 2022-02-07 03814, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        That's about it for me. Go bitmap!
      • 2022-02-07 03822, 2022

      • bitmap
        hey
      • 2022-02-07 03850, 2022

      • bitmap
        last week I spent most of my time on code review and helping with various PRs, particularly related to the homepage revamp and design-system
      • 2022-02-07 03801, 2022

      • akshaaatt
        Thanks bitmap!
      • 2022-02-07 03818, 2022

      • bitmap
        but also updated some MBS ones & helped debug some issues in the release merge page React-conversion one
      • 2022-02-07 03856, 2022

      • bitmap
        later in the week I submitted a couple refactoring PRs to fix Flow-upgrade issues and remove some deprecated Perl module that spams warnings
      • 2022-02-07 03857, 2022

      • mayhem
        I can't tell you all how happy I am that we now finally are making serious progress on having more design skills and making our projects look better. super happy!
      • 2022-02-07 03820, 2022

      • bitmap
        +1!
      • 2022-02-07 03845, 2022

      • bitmap
        besides that I spent time time cleaning up some schema change PRs for tag & area_containment triggers, & release_coverart removal
      • 2022-02-07 03806, 2022

      • bitmap
        fin. go reosarevok
      • 2022-02-07 03820, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Hi!
      • 2022-02-07 03841, 2022

      • reosarevok
        I was mostly working on documenting our tests (which of course also meant finding some bugs in our tests)
      • 2022-02-07 03844, 2022

      • CatQuest
        Freso: who is left
      • 2022-02-07 03855, 2022

      • Freso
        (People up for reviews: yvanzo, mayhem, zas, CatQuest, Freso – anyone else who’d like to give review, let me know ASAP. :))
      • 2022-02-07 03808, 2022

      • reosarevok
        I'm nowhere near done, but I'll keep working on it a folder or so at a time
      • 2022-02-07 03830, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Once we know what we *do* test we'll also have a better understanding of what we don't, and we can add it
      • 2022-02-07 03800, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Also, instead of 50 lines of 1 ok, 2 ok, etc now the tests say what they're doing, which feels great
      • 2022-02-07 03820, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Other than that, I worked with CatCat on the how-to-be-an-instrument-person document, which is pretty much done
      • 2022-02-07 03835, 2022

      • reosarevok
        And with drsaunde on the how-to-request-areas document, which is also almost done
      • 2022-02-07 03853, 2022

      • reosarevok
        That's about it for me. CatQuest?
      • 2022-02-07 03859, 2022

      • CatQuest
        meow!