We don’t alastairp . For example, if you were to explain something to me, even if it were wrong, I would believe you in the initial fly. If I had more knowledge on the subject and I felt you were wrong, we would have had a discussion over it. I see the same happening with my conversations with chatgpt
2023-01-31 03144, 2023
atj
best description for it i've seen it was "automated reply guy"
akshaaatt: that attitude worries me, and I'm trying to articulate why
2023-01-31 03148, 2023
CatQuest
i think it's because we assume a computer will give us truth but another human can be flawed
2023-01-31 03153, 2023
atj
as usual, it's a tool that is useful for certain things and not for others
2023-01-31 03159, 2023
CatQuest
becasue instincitvly we assume computers are not fed bogus
2023-01-31 03147, 2023
alastairp
I don't think it's that exactly
2023-01-31 03112, 2023
CatQuest
it already annoys me when an aswer is wrapped in many layers of text (like the initial bit about "what is slashdot" in that reply. like, i didn't ask about what it is, i asked aobut the name of it. it's unecessary information i don't care about)
2023-01-31 03113, 2023
alastairp
consider something like the original google - when it very clearly used relationships between websites to build this network of trust
2023-01-31 03100, 2023
akshaaatt
Makes sense
2023-01-31 03109, 2023
alastairp
compared to internet/search results now where everything is trying to get to the top of results, and people fill in pages and pages of garbage to try and catch search queries to get eyes on a page to show you ads
2023-01-31 03127, 2023
Freso
alastairp: Let me know when I should try the test chatlogs site again btw. :) (Still getting server error.)
2023-01-31 03150, 2023
alastairp
I'll admit, I'm more likely to trust something at face value that I read off wikipedia, even though I know that has its own problems
2023-01-31 03103, 2023
alastairp
so I can see the jump from that to trusting chatgpt
2023-01-31 03101, 2023
akshaaatt
An example of what you're trying to say is that, if you had to search what a word means, you would prefer to be given the dictionary, which is sorted and look for the word yourself and conclude your finding.
2023-01-31 03122, 2023
akshaaatt
However, for lazy people, someone just telling them what a word means is enough
2023-01-31 03150, 2023
CatQuest
but that's what irc is for!
2023-01-31 03150, 2023
CatQuest kidding
2023-01-31 03101, 2023
akshaaatt
Although I am hoping GPT 4 will be better at this
2023-01-31 03115, 2023
akshaaatt
It has way more parameters under which it is being trained
2023-01-31 03118, 2023
CatQuest
people need to watch some old sci-fi movies
2023-01-31 03124, 2023
alastairp
well, I'd use a digital dictionary instead of a paper one. but I suspect I'd trust google or wikictionary more than chatgpt on that
2023-01-31 03142, 2023
CatQuest
this is why i wanted the grove dictionary books guys
2023-01-31 03157, 2023
Freso
You’re welcome. :)
2023-01-31 03100, 2023
CatQuest
:)
2023-01-31 03109, 2023
CatQuest
(I love these books btw)
2023-01-31 03140, 2023
Freso
Did you add them to BB?
2023-01-31 03159, 2023
akshaaatt
When we write research papers, we end it with a References link where we link to all the webpages or articles that we referred to for our findings
2023-01-31 03119, 2023
akshaaatt
What if chatgpt linked you to the reference alastairp>?
2023-01-31 03128, 2023
CatQuest
not yet because I haven't figured if each tiny article (wich has credits of friter) shoudl be its own work (probably) but thats.. probably thousands of works /.___.\
2023-01-31 03107, 2023
CatQuest
now *THA*T i would want, i would consider linking the source mandatory in ALL AI things
2023-01-31 03110, 2023
Freso
You could always add the edition(s) and worry about works later. I’ve done that with a couple of books.
2023-01-31 03116, 2023
CatQuest
for mmsuic to art to chat ot whatever
2023-01-31 03123, 2023
alastairp
Freso: thanks, but I've got to get some other things done today so may not be able to fix it. But I can check it myself later
2023-01-31 03131, 2023
CatQuest
Freso: yea. probably a good idea. i shoudl do that
(thoguh i have to figure out how to add somethig that is.. 3 editions but yhe same "thing")
2023-01-31 03151, 2023
CatQuest
like a cd boxset
2023-01-31 03152, 2023
CatQuest
sigh
2023-01-31 03158, 2023
CatQuest
perhaps the same EG?
2023-01-31 03102, 2023
alastairp
akshaaatt: I mean, there's a good point. why doesn't it do this already? Wikipedia does it, Google does it (even if the material it links to might be suspicious)
2023-01-31 03127, 2023
alastairp
atj: comments are in the wrong tone
2023-01-31 03131, 2023
akshaaatt
Right. I think it has to do with what CatQuest said
2023-01-31 03133, 2023
CatQuest
atj: now *THA*T is the sort of thing I'd like the thing for
2023-01-31 03154, 2023
atj
alastairp: perhaps if they had specified including comments
I saw another one showing a possible future where someone uses it to generate a nice email, and then someone else uses it to summarise the nice email into key points
