#metabrainz

why not take a "look we made hypebot" angle on it?

but certainly tweet. Rassami and I just had a scheming session and she suggested the LI post

and we came up with an idea for a second byta article series:

and basically write to the goverment/working group that MusicBrainz can basically solve most of their problems. get music into the DB, tag with picard, ship to your downstream

today. not a few million quid down the road.

anyways. tired. bed

mayhem: I went to share hypebot’s LinkedIn post (they made one, yay!) but I think for LI we should aim for high-quality pieces with some thoughts attached

e.g. let’s share their linked in post, but with a few paragraphs of ‘thought-leadership’ (I know, I know, such a managerial bullshit term) from you. Do you think you could write a paragraph of guff about why metadata is more important than ever, or why it was cool to work with Byta on this?

I already retweeted it on Twitter 🎉 (who cares about long paragraphs on twitter!)

I started drafting an intro for LI myself, I’ll write something if you’re busy - but I feel like you could do with an opportunity to let loose!

Definitely see lots of benefits of MeB being involved with the music industry commitment! MB is long established and neutral.

In general I think we’re well placed for getting involved in more discussions like that - one of the things I would be interested in doing is offering a ‘grounded and realistic’ view/statement/press release about stuff like AI and the state of the music industry. It would be cool if people thought “we have a music industry story, let’s talk to that Rob guy for an expert non corpo opinion. Let’s see how this first

press release goes

Huh, we’re listed on this, quite nice: https://covers.musichoarders.xyz/

reosarevok: Guess today today's the time to start working! :D

Pratha-Fish: (soon), actually it all started with MusicBrainz Tagger, Picard is born from this experience (different codebase) soon after. But yeah, that's a long story ;)

lucifer, mayhem: switching listenbrainz to new gateways (dns change)

👍

zas: epic!

I live Picard, probably the first thing that brought me here lool (apart from last.fm)

*love

atj: around?

switching staticbrainz.org to new gateways

zas: in 15-20mina

*mins

ok, just wanted to be sure you're around before I switch high traffic domains to new gateways, in case we need to tweak things

metabrainz.org switched to new gateways

[listenbrainz-android] 14akshaaatt merged pull request #167 (03main…refactor-jc): Refactor app to Jetpack Compose https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-andr...

[listenbrainz-android] 14akshaaatt merged pull request #161 (03main…dont-fetch-url-twice): Fix: don't fetch cover art urls twice https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-andr...

now switching the big one, musicbrainz.org

:D

zas: dreq is ACLs?

Hi aerozol ! Sneak peek for you, mayhem and I have been busy the past two days: https://test.listenbrainz.org/user/mr_monkey/re...

Spam about the promotion of gender equality in Pakistan

Truly I've now seen everything

atj: yes

those were previously blocked at IP level

and they are targeted mainly at musicbrainz.org

so far, no issue

we still have residual queries on kiki

load under 2 on rex & rudi, good :)

lucifer: so i was trying to get error body from response when an incorrect API call has been made

retrofit returns null in any case

i did some digging online

and the message should not be empty

in 4th warning

the 4th warning shows the raw response from the server

atj: we still get queries on kiki, but I guess those are coming from clients that still have old IPs in cache

yes,I imagine that will happen for some time

jasje: are you accessing `errorBody` on the response?

lucifer: errorbody returns null as well

i see the response here so its an issue with retrofit or the app's code

im aware of this response and that is exactly what im trying to get

only 11 req/s on kiki now, it is slowly decreasing

but errorbody is just empty

ill go through retrofit issues

aerozol: opinion? MBS-13115

MBS-13115: Edit annotation, action buttons. https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-13115

7 years? of service??

monkey:

should the first one have a background as well?

jasje: if you can share the code on github, i can help debug

lucifer: ill just share the snippet here

ive got too many experimental changes rn

lucifer^^

its a bit messy because shortcuts just weren't helping debug

jasje: i can't help much without deploying this to a device and testing it but I'll suggest to remove the gson line once and just keep the logs for debugging.

you can consume the ResponseBody only once afair.

fuck i didn't see that

thankyou!!!

its showing now

atj: everything looks fine on rex & rudi :) I'll go through DNS zones again to ensure I didn't forget anything

Mayhem: monkey: just checked it out on my phone, looking great!!

reosarevok: making preview go first names sense to me, what about you?

I think it seems sensible, was just making sure you agreed :)

aerozol: you around for a bit?

Holy moly, I just realized you can already click the playlists. Can't wait to get home to check it out properly

mayhem: on the bus atm, but will be about for a bit in an hour. What you got for me?

I've drafted like 20 press release emails but haven't sent yet

the blurb for the LI post. tell me what to write an how long to make it and I'll make it happen right now

Does the listenbrainz app listen service work?

it doesn't seem to scrobble listens from Ultrasonic for me

mayhem, lucifer ^^ check please, lb was switched to new gateways, it may be related

zas: unlikely, the android app still has many bugs.

zas: not an issue on LB server.

new listens appearing fine here.

Hi lucifer! Does this endpoint have a PUT api as well? https://listenbrainz.readthedocs.io/en/latest/u...

tandy1000: I've started working with the android team to make sure that listens submission is going to be tight, but we're not there yet.

akshaaatt: the normal listen submission api. set listen_type to playing_now

example payload.

lucifer, mayhem, there is an increase of 101 responses from lb backends after the switch, see https://stats.metabrainz.org/goto/fhxQ3jQVg?org...

zas: those are websockets upgrade requests, is there anything in the switch that could cause that?

maybe old sockets that needed to reconnect?

yeah, that's what i thought but i wonder how many active connections were there.

yes ^^, there's an increase of hits to upstreams tagged sk

oh yeah, the number is quite low in absolute terms ~100.

100/pm, well but yeah back to normal now.

atj: kiki's req/s down to 2-3 per second, I guess we'll have almost 0 in few hours. We can do the consul switch later today.

zas, mayhem: something is up with Websockets. the connection disconnects freqeuently.

hmmm

joy

it works fine but disconnects/reconnects every few seconds/minutes.

we have haproxy in front of openresty now, working at tcp level and a load balancer in front of haproxy

i misinterpreted the drop at the end as back to normal but that's actually data yet to arrive.

oh wow 20th year picard anniversary! holy fuck. amn i remember the whole thing! i remember the orignal tagger and thne "the next generation tagger" thing.. ah man, and that horribly flimsy original thing befroe we switched ot the other (current?) gui type.. I really hated that first flimsy type it was so idk, it felt flimsy. i really like how picard is now

flimsy as fuck. but it proved a lot of stuff. :)

zas: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15633046/in... could be relevant

reosarevok: is.. is that spam? though spam is "stupid pointless annoying messages" and that messge seems smart, important, interesting...?

(lol I know)

lucifer: they are using http proxying, our proxy is at tcp level

what's the haproxy timeout for WS connections currently?

oh okay

but still, there might be an issue with websockets & haproxy

https://documentation.softwareag.com/universal_... shows examples for both modes, and I see nothing special about tcp

mayhem: not quite back on the compy, but it shouldn't be too complicated... Let me think

k

hey if you want someone to bounce ideas about early piacrd on i'm game

I would say for linkedin people like 'big ideas', but that they can still relate to

zas: what's the timeout set to currently?

For instance, if you want to do a paragraph about how powerful metadata is, maybe about what it means in these streaming/artist saturated times. Throw in some buzzwords like AI. Then have a personal note about working with Byte, mention some first names, ya know :D

or throw the article text at ChatGPT and ask it to write a LI post for you.

Or that ;P

Rob's language is very far from what chatGPT writes, now that I think about it. Pretty straight to the point

genuis. replace me altogether. maybe I can achieve reosarevok level's of slacking.

CatQuest: If you have ideas for stories then yes please! How long have you been using Picard for anyway?

lucifer: looks like 15s

tbf beating around the bush and virtue signalling is the fundamental characteristic of LI posts.

is there an LB WS heartbeat?

atj: would it be possible to change it back to what we had with old gateways. if not maybe to 60s?

aerozol: I mean since the beginning