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BrainzGit
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8:15 AM
lucifer
aerozol: i didn't get the time to investigate it yet, will do today
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8:16 AM
BrainzGit
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8:31 AM
outsidecontext
I love how navidrome sorts albums based on original date, and shows both the original and re-release dates
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8:58 AM
mayhem
moooin!
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8:59 AM
mayhem
outsidecontext: I'm currently confused by navidrome -- the file paths it returns via its subsonic API are somehow ... munged.
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8:59 AM
mayhem
I'll need to get back to that and make sure I'm not doing anything dumb, but I saw that and just closed that tab.
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8:59 AM
mayhem
yes, metadata is hard. almost everyone gets it wrong.
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9:10 AM
BrainzGit
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9:11 AM
outsidecontext
mayhem: I think navidrome generates tag based paths, and does not use actual file paths
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9:11 AM
BrainzGit
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9:12 AM
mayhem
there is a field in the DB returned for a song that looks like a file path.
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9:13 AM
outsidecontext
yes, but it's constructed by tags and actually not the file path on disk :(
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9:14 AM
mayhem
`Abakus/Futurism, Part 1/03 - Spark.ogg` returned by API `Abakus/Futurism, Part 1/03 Spark.ogg` vs on disk
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9:14 AM
mayhem
oh, I guess my hopes of fixing that URL are just a pipe-dream.
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9:15 AM
mayhem
meh, navidrome is soo good on many fronts, but absolutely stuffs it on metadata.
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9:15 AM
mayhem
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9:15 AM
mayhem
🤦♂️
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outsidecontext
mayhem: yes, I'm pretty sure the first path is just made from metadata. in my case that fits the physical path often, but often not
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BrainzGit
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outsidecontext
that info about not using recording MBID is actually not fully correct. it uses them for LB submission, as well as artist and release MBID
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9:26 AM
mayhem
do you know of a way to use the API to discover them?
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9:27 AM
mayhem
I am able to generate local LB radio playlists, but now I am working on how to create playlists on the Navidrome side.
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9:27 AM
mayhem
I've got code to sync the DB, but there is nothing that allows me to sync with exactly.
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9:28 AM
outsidecontext
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9:29 AM
outsidecontext
for some reason that navidrome implementation does not include the recording MBID, which is strange. I wanted to submit a PR to fix this
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9:29 AM
mayhem
yyyayaaya. very good. do you know if a release is on the horizon?
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9:30 AM
outsidecontext
the merged part is in the latest release, but as I said only with release MBIDs (in the album endpoints)
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9:31 AM
outsidecontext
so would be cool to get this extended for recording IDs.
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9:33 AM
mayhem
release ids and track nums allow me to match, so I'm good. I am working on a per album basis anyway, so works for me.
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9:34 AM
outsidecontext
sounds good
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9:34 AM
mayhem
oh, new release. I must've last looked a day BEFORE the release.
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9:34 AM
mayhem
thanks for the info, I"m back in business.
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outsidecontext
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9:34 AM
mayhem goes to update navidrome.
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9:39 AM
mayhem
that was easy. ok, time to pay people, then I can play more.
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mayhem
🙄 reosarevok how much should I dock you pay for that 'equivocado' ???
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10:15 AM
reosarevok
:D
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10:15 AM
mayhem
4 minutes late on the invoice. sheesh.
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reosarevok
If my memory serves, you should give me a nice retirement pay and send me to Kuwait?
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mayhem
WTF kuwait? the really believe that birds are not real.
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reosarevok
Oh, sorry, Abu Dhabi it was
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mayhem
ahhhhh, vale. solsob.
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mayhem
akshaaatt: jasje ping
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10:19 AM
jasje
mayhem: yes
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mayhem
does the LB app use "Foreground service permissions" ?
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10:19 AM
jasje
yes
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jasje
media player is a foreground service
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mayhem
if we want to continue using them, we need to prostrate ourselves on the altar of google.
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10:20 AM
mayhem
can you "Provide a video demonstrating how your app uses the FOREGROUND_SERVICE_MEDIA_PLAYBACK permission for the tasks you've selected" ?
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10:20 AM
mayhem
in response to "What tasks require your app to use the FOREGROUND_SERVICE_MEDIA_PLAYBACK permission?"
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10:20 AM
jasje
where is this coming from
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10:21 AM
jasje
mail from google play?
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10:21 AM
mayhem
yes. let me foward. dm me your email for expdiency.
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10:22 AM
mayhem
sent
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10:22 AM
jasje
huh their I added that permission because android 14 required so
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10:22 AM
jasje
but i cannot test because my AN14 emulator crashes
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10:22 AM
jasje
classic google
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10:23 AM
mayhem
should I request the extension to may 31? their shit ought to be settled by then
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10:24 AM
jasje
idk i have an amd system
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10:24 AM
jasje
they usually let amd fend for itself
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10:24 AM
mayhem
they say I can request an extension, but where? sigh. google.
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10:25 AM
jasje
only akshaaatt can help woth his pixel
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10:25 AM
jasje
about account deletion
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10:25 AM
jasje
I think we should figure something out about all of that soon
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10:25 AM
mayhem
akshaaatt: plz ping us when you have a moment.
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10:25 AM
jasje
if you can please request the extenion
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10:25 AM
jasje
extension*
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10:26 AM
jasje
google is really hostile for android devs nowadays
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10:26 AM
mayhem
I dont see anyplace to do that.
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10:26 AM
jasje
they want minimum 20 testers before app goes to production
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10:26 AM
mayhem
lucifer: thanks.
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10:27 AM
jasje
lucifer: maybe you test pls?
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10:27 AM
mayhem
this seems like local file playback is going to be a royal pain. google no lieky competition.
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10:27 AM
jasje
yea
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10:32 AM
lucifer
jasje, mayhem: i don't see a deadline extension link but we can submit a screen recording of media playback in the app to comply.
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10:34 AM
mayhem
lets do that. can one of your make one please?
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10:38 AM
lucifer
jasje: can you? otherwise let me know which screens use that permission and i will.
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10:39 AM
jasje
lucifer: the permission is only required on AN14
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10:39 AM
jasje
and my AN14 emulator is crashing
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10:39 AM
lucifer
jasje: yes but the video doesn't need to be on AN14
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10:39 AM
jasje
so no way to test things
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10:40 AM
jasje
oh
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10:40 AM
lucifer
a screen recording of the music playback in the app should be enough afaik
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10:40 AM
jasje
alright ill record one as soon as i get home
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mayhem
👍
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lucifer
i tried to get a bunch of my friends to sign up for ListenBrainz by tempting them with Year in Music reports, only 1 did. everyone else refused because they didn't want their music listening history to be public.
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11:08 AM
reosarevok
That embarrassing, huh :D
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11:08 AM
lucifer
i explained to them, unless they tell anyone their ListenBrainz username it couldn't be traced to them but yeah well.
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11:09 AM
mayhem
yeah, the whole concept of increased privacy on the internet is not helping the LB cause. back in the last.fm days people weren't really aware.
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11:09 AM
mayhem
and now they are too sensitive, even if music listening data will never put you in real harm.
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11:10 AM
lucifer
yeah indeed
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11:11 AM
lucifer
and i mean it is fairly anonymous, you just give us an email which remains private.
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11:12 AM
mayhem
subtle nuances when it comes to pribvacy are lost on most people, sadly.
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11:13 AM
lucifer
yeah i think i am going to omit the part about listening history being public next time i pitch LB to people.
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11:14 AM
lucifer
they likely don't care but when i tell them explicitly it might sound omnious.
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11:14 AM
mayhem
sneaky. they'll see the sign-in warning, so not evil.
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11:14 AM
lucifer
the thing about defaults, most people wouldn't opt in to target ads data collection but they wouldn't opt out either.
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11:21 AM
mayhem
outsidecontext: do you have a subsonic/opensubsonic python client lib you like? I need one that supports AlbumID3, not sure that py-sonic does
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11:32 AM
Pratha-Fish
I mean... What harm does sharing music listening history even cause lmao
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11:32 AM
mayhem
embarrassment.
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11:32 AM
Pratha-Fish
Good one 🤣
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11:33 AM
monkey
I don't think it's about harm. It's about the general feeling people have with regards to their idea of privacy. It's a topic that is close to many people's hearts, but also steeped in sentiment and feelings.
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11:33 AM
Pratha-Fish
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11:33 AM
Pratha-Fish
Even more than the 2023 t-shirt I'd say
