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      • kellnerd
        I have nothing to report for last week, was afk most of the time.
      • 2024-02-05 03617, 2024

      • kellnerd
        That's it I guess.
      • 2024-02-05 03632, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        Thanks, back to reosarevok (IRC) then!
      • 2024-02-05 03637, 2024

      • reosarevok
        Hi!
      • 2024-02-05 03642, 2024

      • reosarevok
        Thanks everyone for your reviews
      • 2024-02-05 03611, 2024

      • reosarevok
        We have two topics, and both are by zas, so:
      • 2024-02-05 03623, 2024

      • reosarevok
        SolrCloud? (and very much not SOLR Cloud)
      • 2024-02-05 03639, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        whats the diff?
      • 2024-02-05 03640, 2024

      • zas
        It has to be upgraded
      • 2024-02-05 03603, 2024

      • zas
        The cluster is now 100% resources almost all the times
      • 2024-02-05 03621, 2024

      • zas
        So we need to migrate to increase the overall performance, and upgrade SOLR in the process
      • 2024-02-05 03642, 2024

      • reosarevok
        So is that why the search fails relatively often?
      • 2024-02-05 03643, 2024

      • zas
        The idea is to deploy a set of VMs in pararel
      • 2024-02-05 03651, 2024

      • zas
        reosarevok: yes
      • 2024-02-05 03615, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        oh!
      • 2024-02-05 03626, 2024

      • zas
        yvanzo & I can do most of the work on that I think, we'll need atj for Ansible support (if we go this way for it)
      • 2024-02-05 03619, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        There are some resources available for deploying through Ansible already, just need to adapt.
      • 2024-02-05 03635, 2024

      • zas
        The current cost of SOLRCloud is rather low (<200€/month), we can prolly drop our own load balancers since Hetzner has now a solution for that
      • 2024-02-05 03626, 2024

      • zas
        Of course, more nodes will be needed, we'll evaluate that during testing phase
      • 2024-02-05 03606, 2024

      • zas
        The other topic was about the need to upgrade docker on all machines (and rather soon)
      • 2024-02-05 03612, 2024

      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • 2024-02-05 03616, 2024

      • reosarevok
        zas: Servers reboot!
      • 2024-02-05 03648, 2024

      • zas
        We need to organize that this week if possible
      • 2024-02-05 03659, 2024

      • zas
        While at it, we'll upgrade consul too
      • 2024-02-05 03602, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        so some downtime this week?
      • 2024-02-05 03605, 2024

      • zas
        and reboot all servers
      • 2024-02-05 03614, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        that suits me atleast fine that it's this week
      • 2024-02-05 03617, 2024

      • zas
        ApeKattQuest: yes, likely, but it should be short
      • 2024-02-05 03630, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        noproblem at all
      • 2024-02-05 03610, 2024

      • monkey
        Ok, say when and I'll be available
      • 2024-02-05 03619, 2024

      • mayhem[m]
        zas: ping lucifer (IRC) and I tomorrow during the day when we're both about and we can do the LB servers.
      • 2024-02-05 03638, 2024

      • zas
        ok, what about tomorrow meeting time?
      • 2024-02-05 03639, 2024

      • bitmap
        let me know when you'd like to reboot floyd and I can publish a blog post for the downtime
      • 2024-02-05 03644, 2024

      • bitmap
        er, jimmy
      • 2024-02-05 03654, 2024

      • lucifer
        sure works
      • 2024-02-05 03659, 2024

      • mayhem[m]
        I'm not around that time tomorrow.
      • 2024-02-05 03611, 2024

      • zas
        mayhem[m]: sooner then?
      • 2024-02-05 03614, 2024

      • mayhem[m]
        but if lucifer (IRC) is willing to do it, then by all means.
      • 2024-02-05 03620, 2024

      • reosarevok
        bitmap: how long would the downtime be?
      • 2024-02-05 03620, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        sooner works for me
      • 2024-02-05 03632, 2024

      • reosarevok
        Not sure if worth a blog if short?
      • 2024-02-05 03635, 2024

      • reosarevok
        Maybe just a tweet?
      • 2024-02-05 03643, 2024

      • bitmap
        reosarevok: not sure, however long it takes to upgrade and reboot the server
      • 2024-02-05 03612, 2024

      • zas
        upgrade is quick, reboot usually few mins at worse
      • 2024-02-05 03616, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        What is still causing a downtime? PG?
      • 2024-02-05 03618, 2024

      • lucifer
        mayhem[m], zas: after 12:00PM UTC anytime works for me.
      • 2024-02-05 03630, 2024

      • bitmap
        PG
      • 2024-02-05 03634, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        should be quick. but just in case
      • 2024-02-05 03604, 2024

      • zas
        we can start during the day to upgrade servers that aren't critical (or are redundant) as usual
      • 2024-02-05 03619, 2024

      • lucifer
        makes sense
      • 2024-02-05 03626, 2024

      • mayhem[m]
        k
      • 2024-02-05 03632, 2024

      • zas
        ok, let's say 17 PM UTC?
      • 2024-02-05 03637, 2024

      • zas
        bitmap: ^^?
      • 2024-02-05 03645, 2024

      • bitmap
        worksforme
      • 2024-02-05 03600, 2024

      • lucifer
        bitmap, can you also do the relevant changes to enable logical replication?
      • 2024-02-05 03614, 2024

      • bitmap
        for sure
      • 2024-02-05 03621, 2024

      • lucifer
        thanks!
      • 2024-02-05 03631, 2024

      • zas
        I suggest we discuss details outside the meeting
      • 2024-02-05 03640, 2024

      • zas
        reosarevok: back to you
      • 2024-02-05 03642, 2024

      • reosarevok
        So, that sounds like a wrap?
      • 2024-02-05 03645, 2024

      • reosarevok
        Ok, thanks!
      • 2024-02-05 03655, 2024

      • reosarevok
        So, thanks again everyone for attending
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      • reosarevok
        </BANG>
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      • rdswift[m]
        lucifer (IRC): Just a "heads up" that the topic in matrix doesn't seem to be getting updated when it changes in IRC. Will that be an issue regarding the meeting agenda?
      • 2024-02-05 03623, 2024

      • reosarevok
        Hmm, that's something we should try to bridge better :)
      • 2024-02-05 03636, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        Thanks IRCers, but you’re missing all the fluff of using Matrix!
      • 2024-02-05 03654, 2024

      • lucifer
        rdswift[m]: hmm, right. i think it works when you set if from matrix but not vice versa
      • 2024-02-05 03604, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        hmm
      • 2024-02-05 03620, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        is that why the topic got changed back and forth accidentally
      • 2024-02-05 03620, 2024

      • rdswift[m]
        Also, I'm not us normal users can change it in matrix.
      • 2024-02-05 03641, 2024

      • rdswift[m]
        * I'm not sure that us normal
      • 2024-02-05 03647, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        I doubt that it might due to it, because changing the description of the room in Matrix requires privileges.
      • 2024-02-05 03653, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        *be
      • 2024-02-05 03600, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        what, are there OP in matrix?
      • 2024-02-05 03647, 2024

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas) | TEST
      • 2024-02-05 03655, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        what does matrix say for topic now
      • 2024-02-05 03614, 2024

      • rdswift[m]
        Might need to maintain the meeting agenda elsewhere?
      • 2024-02-05 03637, 2024

      • TOPIC: #metabrainz MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews
      • 2024-02-05 03638, 2024

      • aerozol
        akshaaatt: lucifer: I get the feeling the app YIM momentum has waned - are you okay with me sharing the news that we reran it akshaaatt? If you are planning another push for the app YIM it would be a good excuse to plug it, but it has been a while now!
      • 2024-02-05 03657, 2024

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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas) | TEST
      • 2024-02-05 03607, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        hmm..
      • 2024-02-05 03612, 2024

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas)
      • 2024-02-05 03617, 2024

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews
      • 2024-02-05 03637, 2024

      • rdswift[m]
        ApeKattQuest: #metabrainz MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, IRC alternatives (mayhem, lucifer), Summit 2024 (ruaok)
      • 2024-02-05 03637, 2024

      • rdswift[m]
        Looks like something has changed because I now have ability to edit it.
      • 2024-02-05 03639, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        Apparently I can change it too from Matrix 😄
      • 2024-02-05 03647, 2024

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas)
      • 2024-02-05 03612, 2024

      • lucifer
        yvanzo[m], rdswift[m]: yes i changed the room topic permissions
      • 2024-02-05 03614, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        but the topic isn't actually changing. only a lot of people it "so and such has changed topic to...."
      • 2024-02-05 03626, 2024

      • akshaaatt
        I haven’t got the chance yet to debug the issues we were facing last time, aerozol. pranavkonidena[m was looking into it but it might take a few more days to release so we should release it separately
      • 2024-02-05 03646, 2024

      • akshaaatt
        You can go ahead with the re run yim news
      • 2024-02-05 03650, 2024

      • aerozol
        zas: bitmap: just checking for the meeting notes, downtime confirmed for 17 PM UTC tomorrow? Or not 100% sure yet
      • 2024-02-05 03658, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        That’s a feint.
      • 2024-02-05 03619, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        i thgouht it was lb
      • 2024-02-05 03635, 2024

      • bitmap
        aerozol: I thought we are only rebooting redundant servers tomorrow, but not 100% sure
      • 2024-02-05 03638, 2024

      • aerozol
        Okay thanks akshaaatt. If it’s a ‘few more days’ we can wait, if ‘a few more days’ = no idea when then I will share the news today ;)
      • 2024-02-05 03653, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        aerozol (IRC): Time not confirmed yet, but not before 17:00 UTC
      • 2024-02-05 03604, 2024

      • aerozol
        Thanks, I won’t confirm a time
      • 2024-02-05 03645, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        We can say that there will be a downtime at some point after 17:00 UTC.
      • 2024-02-05 03653, 2024

      • akshaaatt
        Currently the issue is at a no idea stage because pranavkonidena[m tried to debug it but couldn’t reproduce it
      • 2024-02-05 03608, 2024

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews | TEST
      • 2024-02-05 03615, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        But there will be some tweet about it when confirmed I guess.
      • 2024-02-05 03617, 2024

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews
      • 2024-02-05 03628, 2024

      • aerozol
        Got it thanks akshaaatt
      • 2024-02-05 03648, 2024

      • akshaaatt
        :)
      • 2024-02-05 03652, 2024

      • bitmap
        apologies if I wasn't paying attention, I can prepare the PG changes for tomorrow anyway
      • 2024-02-05 03635, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        bitmap: Is there anything special to do/check regarding cache changes for today’s MBS release?
      • 2024-02-05 03636, 2024

      • bitmap
        let me just double check that no DBDefs changes are needed...
      • 2024-02-05 03613, 2024

      • bitmap
        our production DBDefs files do not use the new REDIS_*_DATABASE settings, but I guess that's not really an issue. (I'm not even sure it was worth adding these.)
      • 2024-02-05 03659, 2024

      • bitmap
        yvanzo[m]: nothing special needed, then, but I will keep an eye on things after it's deployed
      • 2024-02-05 03622, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        bitmap: I don’t see any change about REDIS_*DATABASE in the code.
      • 2024-02-05 03654, 2024

      • bitmap
        in lib/DBDefs/Default.pm, I introduced three new settings
      • 2024-02-05 03606, 2024

      • BrainzGit
        [design-system] 14Aerozol merged pull request #123 (03master…ListenBrainz-Local-logos): ListenBrainz Local logos https://github.com/metabrainz/design-system/pull/…
      • 2024-02-05 03607, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        bitmap: When? Not in `git diff beta..production`
      • 2024-02-05 03659, 2024

      • bitmap
        we are talking about https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… right? it hasn't been merged yet (nor approved)
      • 2024-02-05 03609, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        Oops
      • 2024-02-05 03624, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        Sorry, will review it again.
      • 2024-02-05 03648, 2024

      • yvanzo[m]
        (Every time I’m thinking it’s already merged.)
      • 2024-02-05 03616, 2024

      • bitmap
        all good
      • 2024-02-05 03656, 2024

      • bitmap
        a problem with REDIS_CACHE_DATABASE and REDIS_STORE_DATABASE is that they are not used at all if you already have CACHE_MANAGER_OPTIONS, DATASTORE_REDIS_ARGS, etc. configured without them.
      • 2024-02-05 03647, 2024

      • aerozol
        p.s. happy Waitangi Day everyone! Today Aotearoa pays respect to the treaty between Māori and Europeans, the founding document of ‘modern’ NZ
      • 2024-02-05 03656, 2024

      • monkey
        And to you aerozol !
      • 2024-02-05 03647, 2024

      • aerozol
        Thanks monkey!
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      • aerozol
        Reminds me, I had a q for you, that I accidentally pinged reo for instead
      • 2024-02-05 03602, 2024

      • aerozol
        Thanks for all the notes on the LB recap document! I started writing it in current tense, which was fun, but about halfway through it had tied me in knots a little bit. If you think it is too confusing I can rewrite it to all be past tense. Otherwise I’ll have another pass over it to make sure it’s consistently current tense
      • 2024-02-05 03616, 2024

      • aerozol
        ^ monkey
      • 2024-02-05 03609, 2024

      • monkey
        Honestly I think it's fine in current tense
      • 2024-02-05 03609, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        start in past tense, then segue into present and end in future !!!!
      • 2024-02-05 03614, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        (joking)
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      • aerozol
        That sounded, sounds and will sound like a great idea ApeKattQuest
      • 2024-02-05 03627, 2024

      • BrainzGit
        [bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #1059 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/babel/preset-typescript-7.23.3): chore(deps-dev): bump @babel/preset-typescript from 7.16.0 to 7.23.3 https://github.com/metabrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
      • 2024-02-05 03632, 2024

      • ApeKattQuest
        💪
      • 2024-02-05 03618, 2024

      • BrainzGit
        [bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #1060 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/elastic/elasticsearch-8.12.0): chore(deps): bump @elastic/elasticsearch from 5.6.22 to 8.12.0 https://github.com/metabrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
      • 2024-02-05 03620, 2024

      • BrainzGit
        [bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] closed pull request #1054 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/elastic/elasticsearch-8.11.0): chore(deps): bump @elastic/elasticsearch from 5.6.22 to 8.11.0 https://github.com/metabrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
      • 2024-02-05 03624, 2024

      • BrainzGit
        [troi-recommendation-playground] 14mayhem opened pull request #127 (03main…merge-content-resolver): Merge content resolver https://github.com/metabrainz/troi-recommendation…
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      • mayhem
        lucifer: a big PR for ya -- looks scary, but most is copy-pasta from another reviewed repo, so not that much to review.
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      • mayhem
        lucifer: thoughts on what to do with: https://github.com/nmslib/nmslib ?
      • 2024-02-05 03619, 2024

      • mayhem
        the maintainer appears to be AWOL. I suppose we can clone and release on pypi, but that is meh.
      • 2024-02-05 03630, 2024

      • lucifer
        mayhem: do you know of an alternative library that might work?
      • 2024-02-05 03658, 2024

      • mayhem[m]
        sadly, no. I was tickled pink to find this one.
      • 2024-02-05 03623, 2024

      • mayhem[m]
        but there are a lot of people in our position. this lib seems popular, so I hope that someone will pick it up.
      • 2024-02-05 03629, 2024

      • lucifer
        i'll see if i can find any workaround than pypi.
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      • lucifer
        maybe a gitsubmodule?
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      • mayhem[m]
        gah, I hate those.
      • 2024-02-05 03615, 2024

      • lucifer
        yeah true but its better than releasing on pypi imo.
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      • mayhem[m]
        neither are great. :(
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      • lucifer
        mayhem: pypi github issues suggest using github submodules