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      • Freso
        Let’s move on to next item. :)
      • CatQuest
        it's pretty easy t osay "listen they removed it form everywhere and we removed it fro medit data.. it's pretty decided this info is removable to anyone attmepting this readding
      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: probably admin email history for a paper trail. But let's talk that one with ruaok
      • Freso
        reo: MBBE_Bot autoedits
      • reosarevok
        So!
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: I mean for adding reference from the modified edits
      • (but that can be discussed later on)
      • reosarevok
        I was confused about why I wasn't able to enter MBBE_Bot lyricwiki removals as autoedits (they get approved anyway immediately after I enter them by chaban or kellnerd)
      • Then I realized it's because I never made MBBE_Bot an autoeditor
      • Would anyone strongly oppose making MBBE_Bot an autoeditor for those kinds of edits so we don't flood people's open edit lists?
      • CatQuest has no problem with m bb being autoed
      • CatQuest
        lol autedotr voting for a bot? :D
      • Freso
        I wouldn’t oppose it. Would it make sense to run it through the regular AE voting process?
      • reosarevok
        We generally haven't for bots, but if people want me to, I don't care as such
      • Freso
        I’m good either way.
      • CatQuest
        personally i would second this bot autedit vote jsut for the fun of it :D
      • reosarevok
        Well, I think we haven't. Let me check election history quickly
      • Yeah, no _bot there, at least
      • rdswift says "Just do it!"
      • CatQuest
        (I'd als obe fine to jsut admin it to autoed)
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: moderate opinion is possible ;) it would be nice to have the bot enter noauto edits at first, then switch to auto edits.
      • reosarevok
        Sure, I'm not asking about always entering autoedits
      • Just "once it's clear the community is fine with a specific MBBE ticket and the code works fine, should we autoedit them"
      • CatQuest
        generally human autoeditors also do this so :D
      • reosarevok
        (the ended ones for example were autoedits already because they're autoedits for everyone, apparently)
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: Yes, that was just to clarify. I don't know about bot's ability to set edits noauto.
      • Freso
        Looks like a number of AEs have AE bots.
      • reosarevok
        Including me, for my other bot :)
      • Freso
        So I think it would be fine based on precedent that an "official" MB bot gets AE.
      • CatQuest
        this is true
      • reosarevok
        Ok. I'll make that change, but try to always run at least one or two full days of non-auto for each ticket so people can find issues, before I start autoediting?
      • CatQuest
        (personally I didn't even know it wasn't AE even)
      • yvanzo
        MBBE is slightly different, it runs a lot of different tasks.
      • reosarevok
        Does that sound sensible, yvanzo?
      • yvanzo
        +1
      • CatQuest
        i liek that idea. first ru na few as non-auto
      • reosarevok
        I think for smaller tasks people won't be bothered by having them open anyway
      • It's stuff like lyricwiki (60+ thousand edits) which is annoying :)
      • Freso
        yvanzo: Sure, but they’re all vetted through the ticket system, which is more rigorous/official than any other bot (except for area_bot, maybe).
      • reosarevok
        I mean, technically someone can say "do this" on JIRA, I can be like YES I WILL and do it, and nobody else have seen it in the meantime
      • CatQuest
        I am actually rather sick of seeing lyrics wiki edits ¬_¬
      • reosarevok
        Although maybe we *should* have a system for those where we confirm on a Monday meeting before running if it's not 100% obvious
      • CatQuest
        area_bot is basically drsaunde anyway :D
      • reosarevok
        (normally it's pretty obvious, such as "X page closed on this day, set to ended on this day"
      • but for stuff like removals at least)
      • This specific removal was actually agreed on this here meeting IIRC a couple weeks ago, so I'm sure it's fine :)
      • Freso
        I see no one being against MBBE_Bot having AE status, and there is clear precedent for bots getting AE if their "owner" has, so I think we can go ahead with giving the bot the AE flag.
      • If we want to discuss further policy around how MBBE_Bot is used, I think that should be a different agenda item. Which we can take up right now if people want. :)
      • reosarevok
        Ok :) I think I'd happily "self-censor" and bring potentially destructive changes to the meeting
      • yvanzo
        It has already been settled IIUC.
      • reosarevok
        Does anyone think that's a bad idea?
      • (as in: removal edits, or any merges if we ever happen to do any)
      • CatQuest
        yep
      • yvanzo
        who? ;)
      • Freso
        I mean, destructive changes can’t be autoedited anyway.
      • reosarevok
        Freso: URL removals can
      • CatQuest
        hahaha true
      • reosarevok
        I guess other things can't
      • Freso
        Sure, but not merges. :)
      • reosarevok
        Technically the idea is URL removals are not destructive because you can just paste the URL again
      • Freso
        (Even URL merges can’t be autoedited, even if they can be approved.)
      • reosarevok
        I think :)
      • Which, well, the MBID does get lost, so that's debatable, but
      • In this case I'm interested on them staying that way so shh :D
      • Ok, I think I'm happy with this, so if nothing else, Freso, carry us off?
      • Freso
        Yes.
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      • CatQuest
        🚆
      • Freso
        Thank you all for your time. Be sure to stay hydrated and be kind to yourselves!
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      • yvanzo
        Thanks!
      • lucifer
        oh well, i spent over half an hour trying to figure out where a stray connection was coming from. only to realise that I hadn't cleared my terminal from a few hours ago. 🤦
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      • akshaaatt[m]
        lucifer Hi! I think it would be great if we could change the app's category to Music & Audio in store setting on Playstore.
      • We provide a proper tagger functionality and hence I think the app deserves this category.
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