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      • alastairp
        exactly
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      • rdswift
        <CatQuest> having someay ot scna ab with picard would be :chef: Do you mean something like https://picard-docs.musicbrainz.org/en/usage/su... ?
      • reosarevok
        So alastairp and I were talking and apparently another issue is that new essentia files are currently huge
      • Since it has a ton more data
      • As floats in JSON
      • Which seems less than ideal, not just for storage but for the users to have to upload them for every file
      • They apparently have a wild idea to store it as pngs
      • But in any case, it sounds like the kind of topic some people here might be curious about :)
      • lucifer
        ohh i like what spotify did in its wrap with the movie thing.
      • rdswift
        QR codes?
      • ruaok
        lucifer: https://github.com/metabrainz/troi-recommendati... is a mess already. and I haven't touched tests yet.
      • ruaok still hasn't gotten his wrapped.
      • alastairp
        yeah, so - extracted features are a matrix - x axis is time and y axis is frequency
      • and each value is a 32 bit float (or 16 or 8 depending on how much data you think you need)
      • lucifer
        "You played this a very reasonable 422 times as is your right." i hear sarcasm.
      • ruaok
        lucifer: should I finish things and then add tests? or should just finish things, doc and then do a separate PR for fixing tests?
      • alastairp
        so, an alpha-rgb png is 32 bits per pixel (8 pixels per channel)
      • lucifer
        ruaok: tests in a separate PR is fine.
      • monkey
        What in hell did you listen to 422 times lucifer ?
      • (also, maybe next year you can aim to listen to smething 666 times? just a suggestion.)
      • ruaok
        lol
      • alastairp
        if you take the bits for a 32bit float and chop them up into 4 chunks of 8 bits, then you just use that as the colour value for a png. and now you have all of your audio features efficiently stored in a png
      • rdswift
        Neat idea.
      • lucifer
        monkey: https://listenbrainz.org/user/amCap1712/charts/... first recording. some listens probably mapped else where so count different.
      • CatQuest
        wait so "spotify wrap" is like "the year in music" we're doing ?
      • monkey
        Ahh, 422 over all time. I thought it was for this year, seemed like a lot XD
      • CatQuest
        lol why already? it's like december doesnt excist
      • monkey
        CatQuest: I guess the other way around, but yes :)
      • lucifer
        its yearly :). discovered the track this year only
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      • CatQuest
        what! only 422 times?
      • noobs
      • :D
      • lucifer
        that is a neat idea monkey. although easier to do with LB since unlike spotify i can delete counts here.
      • CatQuest
        I want to say. listen. about the "year in music" thing we're doing. can we PLEASE actually release it early in january ? because excluding december or half of it, is dumb
      • and is literally not "the year"
      • and I *can't* be te only person that gets music for christmas and starts playing it then
      • lucifer
        oh it looks the messages are not fixed but taken from a set of possible ones.
      • "While everyone was trying to figure out what NFTs are, you had one song to repeat"
      • CatQuest
        uh
      • lucifer: what is this?
      • lucifer
        spotify has assigned subtext to various stats it generated.
      • CatQuest
        oh wait so not only do they exclude devmeber completely they're snarky at you?
      • bleh no thnaks D
      • oh but it gives me the idea that we can be positive about stuff!
      • like "you lsitened to this 200 times! that's amasing!
      • lucifer
        yup they release in beginning of december. it has already arrived in india.
      • not sure about other parts of the world
      • alastairp
      • CatQuest
        or "you are in top percentage listeners to this track!"
      • lucifer
        we don't have that stat currently CatQuest but may in future.
      • CatQuest
        "this album was played 30 times, but each song was listened to only 5 except for track y" great song huh?
      • lucifer: was more a refrence to the joey rattata meme but
      • lucifer
        oh ok lol
      • CatQuest
        i'm exausted so i cna come up with funny, memey positive comments we can use isntead later
      • we definitly need ot rickroll people
      • good natueredly
      • monkey
        alastairp: That's super interesting. Didn't realize the level these reconstructions could attain.
      • alastairp
        yeah, exactly
      • monkey
        Also, I love that the 8 mels samples of the Serj Tankian song just sound like their own music genre
      • Sounds like someone is purposefully glitching songs to make new music
      • CatQuest
        8 mels?
      • monkey
        CatQuest: The link alastair posted, bottom of the page
      • CatQuest
        oh right
      • reosarevok
        I actually like that remix
      • alastairp: can we get more of those? :p
      • The 8 mels heavy industrial ones
      • alastairp
        reosarevok: code is at https://github.com/andrebola/EUSIPCO2020/blob/m..., knock yourself out
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      • lucifer
      • reosarevok
        alastairp: I'm surprised the vocals are mostly understandable at every level for the Tankian one
      • CatQuest
        ugh how insufferable attitude
      • lucifer
        CatQuest: oh spotify actuallly did you are in the top 1% listener of this artist
      • CatQuest
        sarcastically i assume?
      • reosarevok
        Last year it was not, but maybe this year it is :D
      • (sarcastically)
      • lucifer
        don't think so :) even has a link to tweet thanks to the artist
      • CatQuest
        I still say we good-naturedly rickroll people
      • lucifer
        ruaok: the only playlist spotify made for wrapped is your top tracks!! looks like we have something better than them :D
      • s/only playlist/only personalized playlist
      • ruaok
        that sounds desperate...
      • reosarevok
        My top is 43 times, but they said it with "very reasonable" too
      • lucifer
        huh, maybe they just say very reasonable for everyone then? i'd like it more if its sarcastic though.
      • ruaok
        huh, I listened to more music than 96% of the US listeners
      • lucifer
        94% for me.
      • bitmap
        reosarevok: I usually run then from inside the production-cron container. something like sudo -E -H -u musicbrainz carton exec -- ./admin/RunReports.pl DuplicateArtists
      • (you have to run the script with carton exec but also as the musicbrainz user)
      • lucifer
        overall, spotify wrapped looks great. the stats are great. top stats + moods + genres. if you replay wrapped, even different things show up some times. more playlists is the only thing i feel lacking in it.
      • ruaok
        as usual, it was flashy. I thought the 96% stat was cool. and your top genres was cool, but not surprising.
      • I think ours will have more depth, TBH
      • will be fun to see them side by side
      • lucifer
        indeed.
      • i liked the top listener to the artist too.
      • spotify's wrapped has been completely a review of the user's listening. it does not have any music discovery. LB's similar users and top missed tracks so that definitely adds more detail to it.
      • *new music discovery
      • reosarevok
        bitmap: I'll just run them all, since it seems several are missing and I can't be bothered checking them all one by one
      • bitmap: also when you have some time, can you see my comment on https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-12092 ?
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-12092: make it clear that delete-alias requires edit notes
      • CatQuest
        aloso it works if yo udon't have spotify
      • CatQuest doesnt
      • so deff looking forward to the listenbrainz stat's of the year
      • as long as lucifer can fix my weird timezone issue :D
      • lucifer
        CatQuest: the timezone issue was lfm specific but yes there is some issue with imports which i am looking into.
      • ruaok: btw forgot to mention, today's stat run was chunked at 10 users per message went smoothly.
      • CatQuest
        awsome
      • ruaok
        oh good. did you check the load graph on floyd during the time it ran?
      • lucifer
        yes it looked normal.
      • ruaok
        great! well done!
      • lucifer
      • ruaok
        cool
      • lucifer
      • load never crossed 5.5% and was usually lower
      • it peaked around 5:45 at 5.5% but looks like no stats were going on that point so probably unreated?
      • although we only have a single stats run so i am confused why there seems to no activity between 3:30 to 6:00.
      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok opened pull request #2356 (03master…MBS-12112): MBS-12112: Remove unneeded escape for $ https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...
      • ruaok
        alastairp: monkey lucifer : Annoy playlist made with GFCCSW metric: https://listenbrainz.org/playlist/50cef1d2-71f2...
      • very interesting results.
      • this is generated by the similarity API call with neighbors = 1000 and dedup=all. then all tracks duplicate tacks (based on recording name and artist name) are removed. chopped down to 50 and uploaded. minimal processing.
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      • lucifer
        ruaok: i see. interesting. but i haven't listened to the seed recording or the neighbours before so can't say anything about whether these are good results or not currently.
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      • ruaok
        the seed recording is usually the first one in the list.
      • if you give me a seed MBID, I can generate the two lists for you.