huh, what breaks in picard? is it using one of the deprecated modules that got removed?
2025-01-27 02728, 2025
iconoclasthero
I had > 200 packages that apt said needed to be updated so I thought that I'd update chunks of them so I could look through smaller lists using apt --only-upgrade <package list>
2025-01-27 02705, 2025
iconoclasthero
as a result python3.13 got updated and apt **removed** picard when it did.
2025-01-27 02738, 2025
iconoclasthero
rather: python3 got upgraded from 3.12.8 to 3.13
2025-01-27 02731, 2025
iconoclasthero
so i rolled back to before the upgrade and upgraded everything and now python3.13 is held with ca. 50 other packages and it leaves picard alone.
so i don't know why it has a limitation of python3 <<3.13, but apt removes it because of that.
2025-01-27 02705, 2025
iconoclasthero
@kepstinbrainz
2025-01-27 02702, 2025
iconoclasthero
s/upgraded everything/simply used 'apt upgrade' without trying to narrow things down/
2025-01-27 02718, 2025
iconoclasthero
i think the problem is that ppa version.
2025-01-27 02738, 2025
iconoclasthero
i think if i remove the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and downgrade (on machine gigabyte), it will be ok https://bpa.st/4VNQ because on machine latitude there doesn't appear to be the restriction: https://bpa.st/7Q5Q
2025-01-27 02759, 2025
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kepstinbrainz
ah, so this is an issue with the ubuntu packages on the musicbrainz-developers ppa?
2025-01-27 02734, 2025
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outsidecontext[m
generally Picard is compatible with python 3.13
2025-01-27 02704, 2025
outsidecontext[m
the PPA packages are built against the corresponding Python packages of the Ubuntu series they are built for. If the development version of Ubuntu changed the Python I think this should be reflected on next package rebuild.
removing the ppa (which, honestly, i don't need) and downgrading releases most of the held packages
2025-01-27 02742, 2025
outsidecontext[m
iconoclasthero (IRC): yes, of course. see my comment just before.
2025-01-27 02701, 2025
iconoclasthero
yep.
2025-01-27 02742, 2025
iconoclasthero
question though, " I think this should be reflected on next package rebuild." what sort of schedule/regularity does this occurr on?
2025-01-27 02743, 2025
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iconoclasthero[4
i just realized that [m] meant [matrix] not [mobile]
2025-01-27 02703, 2025
outsidecontext[m
depends a bit. could be daily, but there needs to have been a change to git I think (in the 2.x branch).
2025-01-27 02726, 2025
kepstinbrainz
yeah, matrix bridges automatically adds an [m] to avoid name conflicts if someone also connects directly to irc (tho matrix users can choose a different name without the [m] if they want to - like i do).
2025-01-27 02755, 2025
iconoclasthero[4
well, i got it sorted, sorry for any hassle.
2025-01-27 02720, 2025
iconoclasthero[4
<kepstinbrainz> "yeah, matrix bridges automatical..." <- your name always reminds me of the enzyme pepsin. :)
