#musicbrainz

aerozol: wait that's that fish album

huh, so it says on https://tigerbloodtapes.bandcamp.com/album/ulti... that some music is differnt. but I see you said you compared and "checked by ear"

!m aerozol

You're doing good work, aerozol!

derp i meant https://tetrasystems.bandcamp.com/album/vinyl-e...

Hello again. Does anyone know how to get the album art properties from Picard?

Also, does anyone use whipper to rip their cds?

Well, I figured out the answer to my first question. Just right click on the album art and select "Show more details" I don't see an option to pick from the various plugins, though.

Does anyone know how to choose a different album cover in Picard without using local files? It's pulling up the cover for the normal release, not the version I have.

on the release you can left click on *it* and select "other version" and differnt ones (with the attaced artwork) should be loaded

PelvicSorcery:

I had the correct release but it wasn't showing the correct album art.

I'm assuming one of the cover art providers was providing just the normal release artwork because it didn't have the other.

Not sure.

Likely that's the case. Cover art providers are checked in the order that you have them listed and will use the image from the first provider that returns one. If you want one specific to your release, then "Cover Art Archive" should be the first one on your list.

oh yes, if you chose "release group artwork" over "Cover Art Archive" then it will select the defaulty artwork (wich is seet on mb)

In the Cover Art Archive settings, you can also specify the size. If you specify 1200px then it will not return anything if the image size is less than 1200px. That stops you from getting a "postage stamp" image for your specific release.

PelvicSorcery: Which cover art providers do you have configured and in which order?

If you want the album art matching your release put the Cover Art provider first

I have the order rdswift gave me yesterday. Is there no way to look at the various options returned and pick the best?

Right now I have AudioDB, fanart, CAA Release, CAA, Allowed URLs, Amazon, Deezer.

No, because it stops after the first returned image.

That is unfortunate. :(

Maybe I should submit a feature request. Default to the first found but allow the option to look at the others.

What is the difference between CAA and CAA Release?

PelvicSorcery: TheAudioDB and fanart.tv have the focus of offering best looking artwork that represents an album / release group, they do not deal with differences of different releases. If you prefer the artwork exactly as on the release you have then use CAA

outsidecontext CAA or CAA Release?

Difference between "CAA" and "CAA Release Group" is that the first gives you the cover art as set for the release, while the latter will give you the cover art set for the release group. That's usually the vest looking one and / or the one that represents that release group best.

Again, if you want the version for the release, use CAA first. You can use CAA Release Group as a fallback.

Okay, so when one version of the cd uses a completely different cover, CAA is the one I want.

This is confusing.

Some people prefer visual quality over correct release, those probably should set CAA RG first, the CAA

I'm trying to get the best of both.

Also, my albums all seem to be coming in at 700x700 even though I have everything configured to use as big as possible art.

That's the cover art size for TheAudioDB or fanart.tv, don't know right now which one uses 700x700

But both services have consistent sizes for all their cover art

rdswift From your 1200x suggestion previously, can I assume that setting to Full size will return an image even if it's only 100x100, etc?

Speaking of the other providers, what is a medium image? I have the option to use them instead of front but I don't know what they are.

Image of the CD

Oooh.

I should have realized that.

Thanks.

Something like https://www.theaudiodb.com/images/media/album/c...

fanart is 1000x1000 px

Yep. It made immediate sense as soon as you said that it was an image of the cd. My brain just hadn't parsed it that way.

I always think of "medium" as size first, then have to correct myself. ;-)

<PelvicSorcery> rdswift From your 1200x suggestion previously, can I assume that setting to Full size will return an image even if it's only 100x100, etc? I believe that's what will happen. I haven't tested it though.

Yes, I stumbled over that as well. The sites actually call it "CD Art", maybe that is the wording I should have used in the plugin's configs as well

outsidecontext Medium makes sense. I just didn't parse that context.

Thing is, we use "medium" pretty much everywhere else to mean CD (or vinyl, etc.)

rdswift Agreed. Hence why I said it makes sense. :)

Also, since I rearranged the order I'm getting nice and big album art. Thanks. :)

Although the big covers are apparently giving Plex pause. :D

PelvicSorcery: cover art is still one of the areas Picard needs quite some improvement. Hopefully we can make some progress here. There are a couple of tickets about that, e.g. https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/PICARD-2121 . And having the ability to later choose between different images by different providers is definitely on my personal wishlist :)

PICARD-2121: Add cover art image processing options

Yes, I would definitely like those changes.

What is Picard written in?

Python, using PyQt5 for the user interface

PelvicSorcery, as for adding a ticket requesting a new feature to download the coverart from all enabled providers and allow the user to choose, please go ahead. It might be a while before it gets worked on, but at least it'll be in the system. I just checked and there is no such request currently on the books.

Okay. I'll try and remember to do that later. Need to finish what I'm working on first. :)

👍

Also, the reason I asked about Whipper was because I ripped a CD and it included the release comment into the folder name. I don't recall it doing that prior to my Picard change so I was trying to figure out if Whipper used Picard anywhere.

I'm assuming not and that I just wasn't observant previously.

I don't think it does, but perhaps it uses the enabled Picard tagging scripts? Easy test would be to disable that script in Picard and try the rip again.

Which is more effort than just asking here. :D

It's mainly academic as I rename everything in Picard anyways.

whipper added the disamiguation comment to the release title for some time, in version 0.10 they added an option to disable this behavior again

Freso would possibly know, as they have been part of the whipper team.

outsidecontext I'm still learning all of the whipper options. Last time I did any ripping morituri was still the goto.

Sorry, outsidecontext. You ninja'd me on that.

I actually don't know much about whipper, but I sometimes look what they are doing. I have used it for testing, but my personal CD ripping needs are rather simple. Usually I still use Sound Juicer for that

I use it because I'm on linux and I've done far too much ripping to have any patience with bad rips.

It's also why I use MB instead of cddb, etc.

whipper is definitely a great tool :)

I think I've ripped my entire collection at least 4-5 times.

This is interesting. After moving CAA to the top, now I'm getting some covers at 500x where before I was getting them at 700x.

CAA originally provided only original upload size and 500px and 250px downscaled versions. Later on a 1200px version was added. I don't know exactly, but well possible that not all cover art is provided as 1200

And I think Picard falls back to smaller sizes if you have configured it to use 1200px and that's unavailable

I just want the biggest file I can get appropriate to my release.