Is there a tool to diff to releases? For https://musicbrainz.org/cdtoc/cIOpaTLd0pvja43a52T… , the SE variant looks bogus, at least in this very web page. Would be nice to see the actual differences between the two, side by side.
2021-12-02 33643, 2021
reosarevok
olh: the Swedish release event was added in 2006, when we had only one release with several events
2021-12-02 33654, 2021
reosarevok
So, it should be (or originally have been) exactly the same
2021-12-02 33631, 2021
reosarevok
Oh, no, actually, the other was added later :)
2021-12-02 33640, 2021
reosarevok
So, the Swedish one was the original add
2021-12-02 33607, 2021
olh
I guess both could be merged into a XE release.
2021-12-02 33638, 2021
reosarevok
Only if they had the same barcode, legal text etc all around Europe
2021-12-02 33641, 2021
reosarevok
(I don't know the album)
2021-12-02 33604, 2021
reosarevok
Sweden was probably picked because they needed to pick something and the artist is Swedish, anyway
2021-12-02 33622, 2021
olh
Well, if a person in Madrid would have entered a CD, and I got my copy in Berlin, surely I would not go and add another copy. Well, unless I'm in the right mood and check if the details are indeed identical.
2021-12-02 33634, 2021
olh
s/copy/release/
2021-12-02 33641, 2021
olh
So, this specific case looks to me like a useless dup, which does nothing bug to interrupt whipper asking for input.
2021-12-02 33657, 2021
reosarevok
As I said, this was the original add many years before the FR one was added :) But no, you wouldn't add another copy unless it has different details (But hopefully you also wouldn't submit the discID to the existing one unless you've checked those details :) )
2021-12-02 33644, 2021
olh
so, what to do about it?
2021-12-02 33638, 2021
reosarevok
If you can't find a source for it, and given the lack of info, you could just merge it, I guess
2021-12-02 33640, 2021
olh
My physical medium is called "PLATINUM CDR" ...
2021-12-02 33625, 2021
ev
sounds like a promo item to me
2021-12-02 33638, 2021
ev
unless they actuallyy distributed all the releases on CDRs
2021-12-02 33641, 2021
olh
an that is all I got. Who knows who went off with the original a decade ago.
2021-12-02 33606, 2021
ev
so, am I understanding correctly, that disc ID above is from your CD-R copy?
2021-12-02 33615, 2021
olh
yes, sure.
2021-12-02 33639, 2021
olh
so the merge UI is not clear to me. If I select the SE entry, in which the FR entry should be merged into, do I have to use "Merge" or "Append"? The default appears to be append.
2021-12-02 33609, 2021
reosarevok
Append will give you two discs, merge one
2021-12-02 33612, 2021
reosarevok
So you want merge
2021-12-02 33613, 2021
olh
Why does it list both, apparently identical, track lists? Are they not actual identical? At the first glance they are. But this is the place where I expected a (friendly) "diff -u" output.
2021-12-02 33654, 2021
olh
ah, "Merge" changes the help text.
2021-12-02 33641, 2021
ev
olh where does it say "PLATINUM CDR"?
2021-12-02 33648, 2021
ev
is that printed on the disc proper?
2021-12-02 33658, 2021
ev
or is it a sticker or something?
2021-12-02 33624, 2021
olh
No. It could also have been "VERBATIM" or whatever. Just another name for "Sicherheitskopie"...
2021-12-02 33651, 2021
olh
Just cleaning up the house, found old crap.
2021-12-02 33646, 2021
ev
Sorry, I'm really confused. Are you saying that was the box the disc in or is it something that is printed on the disc proper?
2021-12-02 33613, 2021
ev
Because if it's something printed on the disc at the factory, I would doubt you have one of the releases listed on Musicrainz, or on Discogss (no CDRs there)
2021-12-02 33615, 2021
reosarevok
I understand they don't have the original, just this :)
2021-12-02 33623, 2021
reosarevok
(anymore)
2021-12-02 33632, 2021
ev
OK, so it's a copy of the original, makes sense.
2021-12-02 33636, 2021
olh
I guess next Friday morning I will know what the outcome of https://musicbrainz.org/edit/85107184 actually is. The UI does not show that, if there are conflicts or the like.
Hey there! I'm not new to Musicbrainz I've been contributing for a while but I kinda miss some kind of review of the edits/additions. For example I just added this release: https://musicbrainz.org/release/9bc5e8ab-9283-416… and have serious doubts about the track capitalization. Can someone help me doing it right?
2021-12-02 33618, 2021
uZer
In a more general way, I don't know if such a thing exists but is there some kind of peer review / mentoring process?
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2021-12-02 33612, 2021
reosarevok
uZer: well, there's voting, and people who are following any artist or label here will be notified of your edit
2021-12-02 33606, 2021
uZer
The problem is I usually get no vote on any edit/addition I make
2021-12-02 33622, 2021
reosarevok
Then you might be editing a bit more obscure stuff, or mostly doing it right :)
2021-12-02 33626, 2021
reosarevok
Asking here is always ok
2021-12-02 33628, 2021
reosarevok
Here I'm a bit confused because bandcamp is all lowercase, and the release is too - except the last, German-titled track
2021-12-02 33651, 2021
reosarevok
I'd expect either all-lowercase is artist intent and it overrides German, or it is not and then everything follows guidelines
2021-12-02 33641, 2021
reosarevok
Other than that, it all looks good to me
2021-12-02 33615, 2021
uZer
Yeah I'm clearly adding obscure stuff most of the time x) I think this release is lowercase by artist intent too, but I had doubts for the last tracks, thanks for the info!
2021-12-02 33620, 2021
reosarevok
You could add works to be able to indicate "written by", and add "produced" to the tracks
From what I can tell from back covers at Discogs most of the barcodes are with the wrong release country anyway. Dunno if I want to be the one untangling it tbh!
2021-12-02 33649, 2021
aerozol
hey uZer, I've subscribed to your edits so they will pop up in my emails. But honestly I probably wont comment unless you've done something weird/wrong :P As Reo says, no news is good news!!
2021-12-02 33606, 2021
uZer
Oh thanks you aerozol! I'm following your twitch channel since a few weeks but didn't get the chance to see you stream yet (maybe a timezone problem :P)
2021-12-02 33657, 2021
aerozol
Hehe probably, living in the +12 timezone is pretty special! Hey, isn't it time for a new album from you btw??
Everything is from jam sessions we did this summer and previous one :')
2021-12-02 33641, 2021
uZer
I'm the little nerd behind the modularsynth, hi! haha
2021-12-02 33658, 2021
aerozol
nerds 4 life!!
2021-12-02 33655, 2021
uZer
Thanks for the review and the tools aerozol! I also added Works on my own albums since it's something I know better, and... haha yeah ok it's a lot of work :') Thanks for pointing this is something needed/useful reosarevok!
I see the value (esp with classical), but I honestly have too much to add to the DB that takes precedence
2021-12-02 33608, 2021
uZer
haaa thanks for the null.part addition :D
2021-12-02 33638, 2021
uZer
wow amazing you added my friend's profiles
2021-12-02 33608, 2021
reosarevok
aerozol: boooooo :p
2021-12-02 33617, 2021
reosarevok
(but fair, for non-reused stuff)
2021-12-02 33642, 2021
aerozol
;P
2021-12-02 33619, 2021
uZer
Can a digital release have a barcode? (e.g a album with CD medium + Digital release on bandcamp, barcode on bandcamp, should I put the barcode in the Digital Release too?)
2021-12-02 33657, 2021
aerozol
totally, if the barcode is on bandcamp I would add it to the digital release
2021-12-02 33608, 2021
aerozol
Spotify and Deezer every release has a barcode
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uZer
ok thanks
2021-12-02 33619, 2021
uZer
another question sorry :D is there a magic script to find all streaming for free/buy URL for a specific release?
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ev
uZer: many digital releases have an UPC
2021-12-02 33649, 2021
ev
if you have the bandcamp userscript it will reveal the associated UPC
2021-12-02 33624, 2021
uZer
ah wow perfect, I was not familiar with this whole UPC thing, I found the atisket page and the "summit to MB" button :O
