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      • Rodrick63
        hello
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      • PopperBruda
        Hi
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      • crism
        I see where someone edited a track to change “vs.” to “Vs.” Seems like the capitalization-guesser should have a special case to leave “vs.” alone, no?
      • 2022-01-24 02440, 2022

      • srxl
        Adding a new release "Foobar (VIPs)" - it has the same tracklist as "Foobar" plus 2 extra tracks. Should this new release go in Foobar's existing release group, or a new one?
      • 2022-01-24 02418, 2022

      • srxl
        Comparing ISRCs on the releases, they seem to share the same recordings as well
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      • crism
        That smells like the same release group, srxl.
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      • srxl
        I'm thinking new release group, since I'd probably want the "remix of" relationship between these two, and that's a relationship between groups
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      • reosarevok
        Same release group - that doesn't sound like a remix, just a reissue with bonus tracks
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      • reosarevok
        Unless all the tracks *are* remixed, but then they should not share ISRCs...
      • 2022-01-24 02409, 2022

      • srxl
        Ahhh, gotcha
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      • srxl
        They're not - same tracks as on the initial release
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      • srxl
        Also the label's catalog IDs for the two (MCEP223 for the original, MCEP223-V for the new one with remixes) lend to the "same release group" idea
      • 2022-01-24 02418, 2022

      • srxl
        I'll go with that then, cheers
      • 2022-01-24 02408, 2022

      • Freso
        Is there a way to search for cover art adds with a given comment? 👀
      • 2022-01-24 02413, 2022

      • reosarevok
        Freso: yes!
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      • Freso
        Great, thanks!
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        That should work IIRC
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      • Freso copies link to remove "beta."
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: No, that search the edit notes, not the image comment. :\
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      • reosarevok
        Ooooh
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      • reosarevok
        I though comment as in note, sorry
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm
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      • reosarevok
        Then there might not be D:
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      • reosarevok
        atj, derwin: opinions on STYLE-2037 ?
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      • BrainzBot
        STYLE-2037: Can we please add 'Hard Dance' genre https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-2037
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: Would that be an MBS ticket then?
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      • reosarevok
        I guess :) I don't think we currently support any edit search based on entity comments / disambiguations
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      • atj
        I've never heard of the genre, seems too generic IMV, but let me check the ticket
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      • reosarevok
        I think the idea is that it *is* a generic
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      • atj
        Personally I don't think that "hard" is meaningful as a generic term for genres, it's actually a more specific term. The generic part is the word after "hard", e.g. house, trance etc.
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      • atj
        I don't think you'd add "deep" as a generic genre for "deep house", "deep techno" etc.
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      • atj
        Beatport's genre system is terrible IMV.
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      • atj
        However I do feel a bit like this https://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000… :)
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      • Freso
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-12176: Allow edit searching on cover art properties
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      • KassOtsimine
        Freso: I thought you mean "find all coverarts uploaded by $user with the comment "foobar" :o
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      • KassOtsimine
        and thne a text box for foobar
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      • ev
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      • derwin
        I'm not sure about the second edit?
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      • derwin
        won't "automatic" just number them in the order added to mb?
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      • derwin
        s/number/order/
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      • derwin
        I guess the point is that there's nothing that says that series need to be ordered in release order?
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      • ev
        I believe automatic is clever to the extent that it orders by barcode + date
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      • derwin
        oh, if that's the case, ok.
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      • derwin
        some citation on that would help me feel more comfortable with my "yes" vote
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      • ev
        otherwise I'd have just left it as-is..
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      • ev
        I'm not sure how to cite that, e.g. the documentation doesn't mention how it works
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      • derwin
        ah well, it's non-destructive and not that significant in scope (as the series is not actually ordered) so here's my yes vote
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      • derwin
        but I remain curious
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      • ev
        I believe at the very least it's orederd by the barcode, and catalogue number in absense of a difference in date, but I'm not 100% positive on that one
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      • ev
        thanks for the vote <3
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      • reosarevok
        I honestly don't remember. bitmap: do you remember what we sort series on if there's no numbers?
      • 2022-01-24 02413, 2022

      • ev
        hmm,.. there is a wiki page as follows: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/How_to_Add_a_Series
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      • ev
        'The Ordering Type Sorts the items in the series automatically by their number attributes, using a natural sort order. You have to select whether the series is ordered automatically or manually.'
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, but I don't remember if it defaults to anything if their numbers are missing :)
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      • ev
        oh dear.. did not mean to put an evil face in initial comment there..
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      • bitmap
        if there are no numbers or numbers are the same it does have some entity-specific rules
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      • bitmap
        it'll order by relationship date first iirc, and then for releases it'll order by release date, then catalog number. not sure about barcode
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      • bitmap
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      • ev
        for these releases (I believe this may be the Decca catalogue system, or maybe universal), they have two catalogue numbbers, a shortt one, followed by a large one which is the barcode with an extra padding zero
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      • ev
        it's distinct from the barcode to the extent that they list the short one in bold, immediately followed by the longer one
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      • ev
        well, not followed by, rather, it's directly below the shorter one
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      • ev
        I suppose it's probably fine to that extent,
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      • ev
        I strongly suspect that the three LPs that aren't the sampler were released on the same day ,but I can't find any information either way
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      • bitmap
        it sounds like they should be ordered correctly in that case
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      • bitmap
        if not you can just set the number attributes to 1,2,3 etc.
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      • bitmap
        (most likely the short cat#, not literally 1,2,3. or just revert back to manual ordering)
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      • aerozol
        hmm the WIki says I'm logged in but it keeps popping up login boxes when I try save my edits. My user name and pw don't seem to satisfy it D:
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      • aerozol
        Oh the old add 'NOTSPAM' into both fields thing. Which it didn't tell me because that only comes up on the login page :(
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      • aerozol
        And now I get 'Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 415)' ?
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      • aerozol
        Anyone else getting that? I shouldn't have done so many edits at once on this page, uh oh
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