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      • atj
        thanks for approving those edits that chaban <3
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      • *that failed
      • dusjekatt
        eh you can't approve aneit that hasalready faield :P
      • failed*
      • atj
        the original edit failed due to a dependency error, so I had to recreate it :P
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      • CatQuest
        oic
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      • ehmry
        I have a band that publishes lyrics on bandcamp, how would I link that to their recordingss/works?
      • elomatreb[m]
        I don't think there is a way to link that
      • The lyrics URL relationship that exists is for the cases where there is an external lyrics database (of which very few legitimate ones exist)
      • kepstin
        ehmry: looks like you should just be able to link the page on bandcamp which includes the lyrics to the work, it's been added to the permitted sites list: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9831
      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9831: Handle Bandcamp lyrics URLs
      • kepstin
        reosarevok: given that the PR is merged, https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-895 should probably be closed?
      • BrainzBot
        STYLE-895: Add bandcamp.com to lyrics site whitelist
      • reosarevok
        kepstin: it's docs required, needed adding to https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Relationship...
      • But I'll add, so yeah
      • Thanks!
      • ehmry
        ah, ok, thanks
      • kepstin
        ehmry: as far as the mechanics of it go - navigate to the work on musicbrainz, click edit, paste the link into the external links "add link" box, it should auto-detect as lyrics.
      • ehmry
        yes, that works, but a bit slow
      • reosarevok
        That's the best we have at the moment
      • ehmry
        good enough for now
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      • King_DuckZ
        hi, is there still no solution for representing ghost tracks in a sane way? possibly one that plays nicely with picard?
      • should I start adding pseudo releases?
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      • derwin
        what's a "ghost track"? do you mean a "hidden track"?
      • CatQuest
        King_DuckZ: erh. "hidden track" wors fine on mb?
      • it can be added to the end.
      • or if it's that weird "playback the cd when at the beginning" 0. trakc thing
      • mb can that too
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      • does anyone else think that http://web.archive.org/web/20050403174041/http:... could be a series? i'm trying to have them all on a the same page in a meaningfull way
      • King_DuckZ
      • CatQuest
        .. need more context?
      • King_DuckZ
        last track is not a 16 min song, it's a 6m30 song plus silence plus 5m30 song
      • CatQuest
        ah
      • yea yo ucna list the recording as title / other title
      • there is some haxery you cnado with picard in that if you've split that track, yo ucna still put thme both on the last one in picard
      • King_DuckZ
        what about picard? I split the track and it doesn't know how to tag the 16th song, from what I can see
      • CatQuest
        and then manually set the text in the spesific file
      • so change the last split file's position to !16! and so on
      • erh "16"
      • you can change the bit on the file itself. iirc
      • or jsut save one of the files once and thne the second one after that
      • King_DuckZ
        so basically there is no way to handle this and I have to do manual hackery that will break next time I import this album in picard?
      • CatQuest
        you can override and type manually the contence in fetched tags
      • aerozol
        You've already hacked the CD :)
      • You can add the Spotify release which has the tracks split and tag to that?
      • CatQuest
        well. you've "hcked" it by splitted the .. yes
      • oh yea. that woudl work
      • !m aerozol for noticing that
      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, aerozol for noticing that!
      • King_DuckZ
        but the catalog number and maybe release date etc will be wrong
      • aerozol
        yup :( but so are your tracks lolol
      • CatQuest
        well honestly you will have to change something
      • aerozol
        jokes aside, I have this problem all the time with vinyl rips, which can be split/not split all kinds of ways
      • CatQuest
        because you "hacked" the file apart. that is the price to pay for conveniance in ripping i suppose
      • aerozol
        it sucks so I do feel for you
      • CatQuest
        oh man, yea
      • i am loath t othat one frank zappa album for a reason
      • btw is archive slow for anyone else?
      • ... omh I'm trying to dl this mashup file and it says "11 h" war
      • King_DuckZ
        I think we had this conversation last year already... wouldn't it be possible to add a ghost track feature to mb so it gets official support instead of hackery, and give an option in picard to have it either as 1 long track, or split it? and picard could do that automatically?
      • aerozol
        Maybe you have some ideas on how it could be done without compromising the database King_DuckZ. It's a tricky one
      • CatQuest
      • yea
      • aerozol
        Hah, beat me to it. Yeah sure. Just need someone to mock it up, make a ticket, and then someone to code it
      • CatQuest
        anyone else oppinion about this list http://web.archive.org/web/20050403174041/http:...
      • i wonder if i cna make a recordng series of it
      • King_DuckZ
        well I don't know about the internal db representation
      • discogs lists 16 tracks btw
      • aerozol
        Might just be needed Picard side tbh
      • CatQuest
        it's actually kidna already possible?
      • you jsut need to fiddle with some tags.. it wouldn't evne take that long imho
      • i mean i fiddle with the tags all the time becase peopel are annoying and put in weird apostrophes
      • aerozol
        I think it's more about it being changed back if you update the tags?
      • CatQuest
        but I mean. this does sound ripe for a plugin suggestion
      • hmm i guess
      • aerozol
        omg CatQuest surely you just hacve a plugin or something for the apostrophes
      • CatQuest
        but I mean that's what "use old tags" are for?
      • aerozol
        hmm I've never used that function!
      • CatQuest
        aerozol: I got help from rdswift in making a script that rmeoves tøv
      • King_DuckZ
        yes, sometimes there is a typo, an updated image or something and it requires an update - I had one just today with a mis-spelled album title
      • and when I have split tracks it always trips me up because they don't fit in the album and my first thought is "oh I tagged the wrong album, I must have some deluxe edition that used to be mis-represented in the db"
      • aerozol
        I imagine something like: right click a track in Picard, click 'split track' or something, and then it adds an extra track, which is then loaded with the album next time
      • however this also might be an obscene amount of work for something that might just need a manual tag change tbh :D
      • CatQuest
        that really sounds like a plugin should do
      • might wanna ask plugin writers? maybe on community
      • King_DuckZ
        when I don't split tracks, it's just annoying that music goes silent and suddenly you get music again. plus, it messes listening stats, I can't mark a song as favourite, making a playlist breaks continous playback etc
      • CatQuest
        sure
      • aerozol
        I hear ya! How are your script writing skills King_DuckZ ;P
      • CatQuest
        it shoulddefinitly be possible with a plugin
      • King_DuckZ
        I'm a programmer but I never did anything on the mb/picard front
      • I wouldn't even know where to start from
      • CatQuest
        it's in python irc
      • iirc*
      • King_DuckZ
      • rdswift
      • CatQuest
        rdswift ftw
      • rdswift
        Plugins are often used to prototype stuff that may entually git incorporated into the Picard base code.
      • *get incorporated*
      • King_DuckZ
        and tbh, I'd extend this functionality to every track, not just the last, eg https://musicbrainz.org/release/03cb5d80-2701-4... <-- needs it for each track
      • this is what it looks like on discogs https://www.discogs.com/it/release/9299891-%E3%...
      • CatQuest
        hmm that's more the extended multiple grouping track thing
      • classic music has it a fair bit
      • uhm.. track grouping?
      • I forget what it's called
      • King_DuckZ
        ok I can't figure how to search the logs but I'm sure we had this exact conversation already, with ideas and stuff thrown in
      • I can have a look at the tutorial, but I can't promise anything. I'm a beginner with this, and the feature sounds fairly complex to me
      • I've never seen track grouping, in fact that cd I linked to just doesn't list "sub-names" of each song, I think I'd have to change the db schema and the ui both on the website and on picard
      • rdswift
        Complex? Maybe. I have no clear idea of what you want it to do, so consequently I have no idea of how that might be accomplished.
      • King_DuckZ
        ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
      • I guess there should be some text boxes where people can add additional titles inside a "top-level" track, with time stamps
      • and the acoust id would also be different of course, depending on if you look up a solid track, or a sub-track
      • rdswift
        In other words a bogus different release. Bogus because the number of tracks has been artifically changed.