#musicbrainz

anyone?

huh has it been a whole year?

CatQuest : any opinion on my question above?

I would say that it is a bootleg, likely the sample was not licensed so the release couldn't be made officially

ah sorry not right now, I'm prepairing to go out and deal with some bankstuff later. i can't get into some mb wormhole :d

IMO a bootleg is not authorized by the recording artist—the primary one.

The recording can be official and have unlicensed or unauthorized samples; that just sets the official issuer up for a lawsuit. A bootleg release of unlicensed samples would (IANAL) actually protect the artist, I would think, since they aren’t responsible for distributing the samples without permission.

according to MB style, bootleg is "An unofficial/underground release that was not sanctioned by the artist and/or the record company. This includes unofficial live recordings and pirated releases." https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Release

notsosmart: if I make a recording that samples The Beatles, without permission from the rights holder, and I release it officially on my Bandcamp page, I maintain that that is an official release from me, despite the unlicensed samples. I may get sued, but the lack of rights to *their* music doesn’t make *my* music release a bootleg.

tI think this release (https://www.discogs.com/release/2308551-Unknown...) would qualify as a pirate release, because the right holders did not give consent

it does

So lots of early hip-hop released on major labels are all bootlegs?

this one for example is a bootleg: https://jakebob.bandcamp.com/track/daft-punk-ha...

Like “Ice Ice Baby” and “U Can’t Touch This”?

good point

jesus2099 and all: indexed search is fully operational again.

crism: so I guess appearances matter

"Music & Sex" has all the appearances of a bootleg release...

yvanzo: what about cover art? Picard is not able to fetch it :(

or maybe there is a way to fix it manually? I was told that the cover art is correctly uploaded to CAA, but the link is broken... what is the correct link?

<notsosmart> "tI think this release (https://..." <- Note that the legal situation around sampling is very complicated, eg it's legal in German copyright if the sampled sounds can't reasonably be reproduced

Legal even without permission, that is

notsosmart: This is a networking issue as we moved a CAA redirect instance back to our main servers.

yes, but whomever released this record, didn't think it was worth the risk to release it, plus obviously there is certain "coolness" to releasing a bootleg-like record, but this is yet another reason to treat this release as a bootleg -- the artist intended it to be a bootleg, so why took it away from them :)

s/took/take/

Looks like the cover art is fixed. :)

it is!