I would say that it is a bootleg, likely the sample was not licensed so the release couldn't be made officially
2022-05-19 13959, 2022
CatQuest
ah sorry not right now, I'm prepairing to go out and deal with some bankstuff later. i can't get into some mb wormhole :d
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crism
IMO a bootleg is not authorized by the recording artist—the primary one.
2022-05-19 13902, 2022
crism
The recording can be official and have unlicensed or unauthorized samples; that just sets the official issuer up for a lawsuit. A bootleg release of unlicensed samples would (IANAL) actually protect the artist, I would think, since they aren’t responsible for distributing the samples without permission.
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notsosmart
according to MB style, bootleg is "An unofficial/underground release that was not sanctioned by the artist and/or the record company. This includes unofficial live recordings and pirated releases." https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Release
2022-05-19 13921, 2022
crism
notsosmart: if I make a recording that samples The Beatles, without permission from the rights holder, and I release it officially on my Bandcamp page, I maintain that that is an official release from me, despite the unlicensed samples. I may get sued, but the lack of rights to *their* music doesn’t make *my* music release a bootleg.
jesus2099 and all: indexed search is fully operational again.
2022-05-19 13923, 2022
notsosmart
crism: so I guess appearances matter
2022-05-19 13948, 2022
notsosmart
"Music & Sex" has all the appearances of a bootleg release...
2022-05-19 13947, 2022
notsosmart
yvanzo: what about cover art? Picard is not able to fetch it :(
2022-05-19 13915, 2022
notsosmart
or maybe there is a way to fix it manually? I was told that the cover art is correctly uploaded to CAA, but the link is broken... what is the correct link?
2022-05-19 13910, 2022
elomatreb[m]
<notsosmart> "tI think this release (https://..." <- Note that the legal situation around sampling is very complicated, eg it's legal in German copyright if the sampled sounds can't reasonably be reproduced
2022-05-19 13916, 2022
elomatreb[m]
Legal even without permission, that is
2022-05-19 13917, 2022
yvanzo
notsosmart: This is a networking issue as we moved a CAA redirect instance back to our main servers.
2022-05-19 13925, 2022
notsosmart
yes, but whomever released this record, didn't think it was worth the risk to release it, plus obviously there is certain "coolness" to releasing a bootleg-like record, but this is yet another reason to treat this release as a bootleg -- the artist intended it to be a bootleg, so why took it away from them :)