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      • crism
        !recall oh no
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      • BrainzBot
        I'm sorry, I don't remember "oh no", are you sure I should know about it?
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      • crism
        Hmm… I thought sure that was the problem. (-:
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        crism: use a dot
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        !recall oh no.
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      • BrainzBot
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      • kiap
        Hello
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      • DjSlash
        hi kiap
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      • kiap
        If a work is a translated version of another work, should I add the original composer on the translated work?
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        hmmm
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        for them usic yes.
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        not he original lyricist though. i think
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      • kiap
        ok, for text just the translator
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      • reosarevok
        I'd add all of it
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      • reosarevok
        Composer, lyricist and translator
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      • reosarevok
        Assuming it's a translation, and not a version with new lyrics in a different language
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      • kiap
        In this case it doesn't really matter; the reference to the original doesn't mention who of the writers did what.
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      • kiap
        I don't think I have a copy of the original so I'd have no way of knowing if the translation is a direct match or new lyrics based on the original.
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      • kiap
        On a side note, is there any way to make the MRU-lists longer?
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      • reosarevok
        MRU?
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      • kiap
        Most Recently Used; whenever you enter something in a field for an artist or instrument it shows a list of the last 10 or so items you used; but it happens to me quite often that there are more than 10 people that worked on a release and it's not always practical to go through the whole booklet to find all instances of the same person or instrument and not lose track of what you were doing
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      • reosarevok
        oh
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      • reosarevok
        I dunno, tbh
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      • reosarevok
        bitmap: is there a reason we do 10 and not, say, 15 or whatever? Is it just because that's the search length default or something?
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      • kiap
        Another interesting one: what lyricist does one use if they are listed in the booklet as taken literally from the Bible?
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      • bitmap
        I don't recall a reason for 10, so probably just picked a nice round number as the default. increasing it sounds fine to me
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      • kiap
        Would be a good candidate for a user preference, I guess
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      • kepstin
        a lot of "bible verse" lyrics would owe a lot to the translator in addition to the original author, of course :)
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      • kepstin
        given how common this is, i'd expect we probably have works in musicbrainz for various versions of the bible that could be linked?
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      • kiap
        How would those be listed? The particular song I'm now looking at uses a single verse from Isaiah chapter 9, verse 5 (which might not line up with English versions because there are verse-numbering differences)
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      • reosarevok
        I have used anonymous in the pasy
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      • reosarevok
        Past too
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        ++ to that making those lists longer i 'd loe 15 or 20 more entries!
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      • kiap
        I would argue that that is untrue; at the very least, the writer is Isaiah (in this case)
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        afaik the bible things simply use "[unknown]"
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        though I belive both jesus and mohammed have entries :D
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        (as supposedly they were historical people...)
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      • kiap
        Although it might be a chore figuring out who was involved the translation to a specific language
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      • kepstin
        translators for some language versions are known, and imo it would be helpful to link works where possible
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        yes, ee "historical people"
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        when translators are known, sure
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      • kiap
        Well, yes, they both were historical people; there are even very few critics that try to maintain that Jesus never lived.
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      • kiap
        But to get back on topic, do we list bible translations as works? Is there a 'book' category for works?
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        well i'd suggest to look at what others have done. I've never worked with bible or other religious works in mb
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        so I cannae tell you
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      • kiap
        I'd love to, but how do I find them?
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      • kiap
        Hmm, a search for 'Isaiah' as artist does reveal that he exist with 'Biblical personage' as disambiguation and listed as lyricist for two works
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        is isaiah Isak?
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      • kiap
        Ehm, no; Isaiah is a prophet; one of the 'big' prophets; his book in the Bible has 66 chapters
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      • kiap
        Isach is the son of Abraham
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