If a work is a translated version of another work, should I add the original composer on the translated work?
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
hmmm
2022-11-28 33238, 2022
ZaphodBeeblebrox
for them usic yes.
2022-11-28 33245, 2022
ZaphodBeeblebrox
not he original lyricist though. i think
2022-11-28 33203, 2022
kiap
ok, for text just the translator
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reosarevok
I'd add all of it
2022-11-28 33207, 2022
reosarevok
Composer, lyricist and translator
2022-11-28 33217, 2022
reosarevok
Assuming it's a translation, and not a version with new lyrics in a different language
2022-11-28 33256, 2022
kiap
In this case it doesn't really matter; the reference to the original doesn't mention who of the writers did what.
2022-11-28 33256, 2022
kiap
I don't think I have a copy of the original so I'd have no way of knowing if the translation is a direct match or new lyrics based on the original.
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kiap
On a side note, is there any way to make the MRU-lists longer?
2022-11-28 33237, 2022
reosarevok
MRU?
2022-11-28 33200, 2022
kiap
Most Recently Used; whenever you enter something in a field for an artist or instrument it shows a list of the last 10 or so items you used; but it happens to me quite often that there are more than 10 people that worked on a release and it's not always practical to go through the whole booklet to find all instances of the same person or instrument and not lose track of what you were doing
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reosarevok
oh
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reosarevok
I dunno, tbh
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reosarevok
bitmap: is there a reason we do 10 and not, say, 15 or whatever? Is it just because that's the search length default or something?
2022-11-28 33219, 2022
kiap
Another interesting one: what lyricist does one use if they are listed in the booklet as taken literally from the Bible?
2022-11-28 33222, 2022
bitmap
I don't recall a reason for 10, so probably just picked a nice round number as the default. increasing it sounds fine to me
2022-11-28 33259, 2022
kiap
Would be a good candidate for a user preference, I guess
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kepstin
a lot of "bible verse" lyrics would owe a lot to the translator in addition to the original author, of course :)
2022-11-28 33211, 2022
kepstin
given how common this is, i'd expect we probably have works in musicbrainz for various versions of the bible that could be linked?
2022-11-28 33241, 2022
kiap
How would those be listed? The particular song I'm now looking at uses a single verse from Isaiah chapter 9, verse 5 (which might not line up with English versions because there are verse-numbering differences)
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reosarevok
I have used anonymous in the pasy
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reosarevok
Past too
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
++ to that making those lists longer i 'd loe 15 or 20 more entries!
2022-11-28 33210, 2022
kiap
I would argue that that is untrue; at the very least, the writer is Isaiah (in this case)
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
afaik the bible things simply use "[unknown]"
2022-11-28 33215, 2022
ZaphodBeeblebrox
though I belive both jesus and mohammed have entries :D
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
(as supposedly they were historical people...)
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kiap
Although it might be a chore figuring out who was involved the translation to a specific language
2022-11-28 33253, 2022
kepstin
translators for some language versions are known, and imo it would be helpful to link works where possible
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
yes, ee "historical people"
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
when translators are known, sure
2022-11-28 33216, 2022
kiap
Well, yes, they both were historical people; there are even very few critics that try to maintain that Jesus never lived.
2022-11-28 33245, 2022
kiap
But to get back on topic, do we list bible translations as works? Is there a 'book' category for works?
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
well i'd suggest to look at what others have done. I've never worked with bible or other religious works in mb
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
so I cannae tell you
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kiap
I'd love to, but how do I find them?
2022-11-28 33215, 2022
kiap
Hmm, a search for 'Isaiah' as artist does reveal that he exist with 'Biblical personage' as disambiguation and listed as lyricist for two works
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
is isaiah Isak?
2022-11-28 33247, 2022
kiap
Ehm, no; Isaiah is a prophet; one of the 'big' prophets; his book in the Bible has 66 chapters
