CatQuest: you mean intentionally use the simple characters instead of the fancy ones MBz style uses?
2023-01-31 03158, 2023
dseomn
so you could claim artist intent that ’ or whatever is wrong and it should actually be ' ?
2023-01-31 03127, 2023
dseomn
that would go against so much of what I've done with unicode in my "music" so far, but then again, it would be funny for a very very small number of people
2023-01-31 03100, 2023
dseomn
how would you feel if I made a title that included both plain and fancy unicode in the same title?
2023-01-31 03120, 2023
dseomn
I could make a track titled: "Mismatched Quotation Marks Are My Favorite” — David Mandelberg, circa 2022-2023
2023-01-31 03153, 2023
derwin
"Mismatched ’Quotation' Marks Are My Favorite”
2023-01-31 03108, 2023
crism
Y’all makin’ me twitchy witcher quotin’.
2023-01-31 03109, 2023
crism
I am down with the places where Unicode adds something—dashes, quotes, ellipses. The hyphen vs. hyphen-minus, specialty slashes vs. solidus, etc., add no real value.
2023-01-31 03120, 2023
crism
I mean, why not have different characters for full-stop and decimal point?
2023-01-31 03105, 2023
aerozol
Unpopular opinion: The amount of people complaining about typographical apostrophes every x weeks is much more annoying than the apostrophes themselves, which are super easy to just ignore
Seems like it might just need two zeroes at the start and then the checksum, but I don’t want to be doing that if it could be wrong?
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CatQuest
[02:25] <dseomn> how would you feel if I made a title that included both plain and fancy unicode in the same title?
2023-01-31 03152, 2023
CatQuest
yes.
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Niols
Hey there! I'm attempting to tag a CD that I just found, and I'm struggling with it a little bit. It seems to have three big pieces, the two first being split between several tracks (7 and 2 exactly) while the last one is only one track. I'm not sure how I should make that appear in the track listing. I suppose it's a common problem for classical
2023-01-31 03117, 2023
Niols
music so there is probably just a page of the FAQ that explains this. The release in question: https://musicbrainz.org/release/ac5e1742-ec43-44e…. I uploaded a (rather shitty, I must say) picture of the back cover as illustration. How am I supposed to tag this?
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aerozol
Hi Niols! What do you mean by ‘tag’? How to tag your own files, or are you asking if the MusicBrainz entry is correct?
2023-01-31 03105, 2023
aerozol
Based on the back cover the entry looks good, DiscID and everything :) Doesn’t give more than ‘SOUTH’ for the last track so I don’t see what else you could do.
2023-01-31 03152, 2023
kepstin
that particular release has a cd disc id, so the tracks as listed in musicbrainz have to match this particular format as split on the cd.
2023-01-31 03106, 2023
Niols
Yes, the disk id is from me. Actually, I hadn't realised there was a 10th track considering only the back cover and I only added it after trying to add the disk id and having MB complain that it didn't have the right number of tracks.
2023-01-31 03145, 2023
Niols
Sorry about the poor wording. By “tagging”, I indeed meant “adding the entry to MB”!
2023-01-31 03148, 2023
aerozol
All good, I figured it out in the end :D
2023-01-31 03149, 2023
Niols
I was basically wondering if the names of the parts should appear in the name of the tracks, or just somewhere at all.
2023-01-31 03111, 2023
aerozol
Ah, the back cover doesn’t have any parts, are they inside the booklet?
2023-01-31 03150, 2023
Niols
For instance, for a classical piece, it seems common to have the tracks be named <name of the piece>: <name of the part>
So I was wondering whether I should go for “8. Pipe Music: March & Reel Medley” and “9. Pipe Music: 3/4 Retreat Marches”, for instance. (And same for 1-7 but the name would be much longer to write on this channel :p)
Or if the words “Pipe Music” and “Music for Seven Scottish Country Dances” should just not appear at all in the tracks.
2023-01-31 03128, 2023
Niols
Hum, I guess your right, then my question should rather be: do you think the classical guidelines should apply to such a CD? Its back cover makes me wonder.
2023-01-31 03131, 2023
aerozol
Disclaimer: I don’t edit classical. But personally I’m not sure those groupings are a ‘work’, they’re more descriptive? Maybe someone else can chip in?
Hum, that sounds like the right distinction to make: these “sections” are only descriptive but the three groups they imply do not represent three pieces of work split over 10 tracks but indeed 10 pieces of work each on their own track. And therefore I should keep it as-is. I think I am rather convinced by this.
2023-01-31 03150, 2023
reosarevok
I don't edit folk but that sounds correct to me
2023-01-31 03157, 2023
aerozol
Looks great then Niols! My only feedback is that the MusicBrianz subtitle divider is a colon, e.g. RSCDS Book 4: Music for Twelve Scottish Country Dances
2023-01-31 03139, 2023
Niols
Oh. Yes I guess I messed that up, didn't I. I'll have fun updating the 52 books in question :p
2023-01-31 03143, 2023
Niols
Thanks very much!
2023-01-31 03159, 2023
aerozol
Oohhh snap, sorry haha
2023-01-31 03122, 2023
Niols
Actually, while we're mentioning RSCDS Books, I've always wondered whether I should include “RSCDS” in their title or not
2023-01-31 03139, 2023
Niols
Because it is more of a logo at the top, so technically I think the CD is only called “Book 4”?
2023-01-31 03135, 2023
Niols
On the other hand, this “Book” name only makes sense in the context of the RSCDS and it felt weird to only call a CD “Book 4”.
2023-01-31 03101, 2023
aerozol
Personally I would leave it even if it’s just so the release is findable. I think you could potentially add ‘RSCDS’ as a label instead (it should maybe be the label in either case? or publisher?)
2023-01-31 03114, 2023
aerozol
Yeah ‘Book 4’ is not a great title :S
2023-01-31 03155, 2023
Niols
Alright, then I should keep that. I think the RSCDS is many things at a time, including the label or the publisher or possibly even both
2023-01-31 03116, 2023
Niols
But I must admit labels and publishers always scared me so I'm not really often adding them...
2023-01-31 03128, 2023
aerozol
Oh yeah? No need to be scared! It’s a good way of grouping all those RSCDS releases on one page somewhere
