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CatQuest: you mean intentionally use the simple characters instead of the fancy ones MBz style uses?

so you could claim artist intent that ’ or whatever is wrong and it should actually be ' ?

that would go against so much of what I've done with unicode in my "music" so far, but then again, it would be funny for a very very small number of people

how would you feel if I made a title that included both plain and fancy unicode in the same title?

I could make a track titled: "Mismatched Quotation Marks Are My Favorite” — David Mandelberg, circa 2022-2023

"Mismatched ’Quotation' Marks Are My Favorite”

Y’all makin’ me twitchy witcher quotin’.

I am down with the places where Unicode adds something—dashes, quotes, ellipses. The hyphen vs. hyphen-minus, specialty slashes vs. solidus, etc., add no real value.

I mean, why not have different characters for full-stop and decimal point?

Unpopular opinion: The amount of people complaining about typographical apostrophes every x weeks is much more annoying than the apostrophes themselves, which are super easy to just ignore

Huh, anyone know what’s up with ‘UPCs’ prefixed by ‘AAB’? e.g. https://atisket.pulsewidth.org.uk/?preferred_co...

Seems like it might just need two zeroes at the start and then the checksum, but I don’t want to be doing that if it could be wrong?

[02:25] <dseomn> how would you feel if I made a title that included both plain and fancy unicode in the same title?

yes.

Hey there! I'm attempting to tag a CD that I just found, and I'm struggling with it a little bit. It seems to have three big pieces, the two first being split between several tracks (7 and 2 exactly) while the last one is only one track. I'm not sure how I should make that appear in the track listing. I suppose it's a common problem for classical

music so there is probably just a page of the FAQ that explains this. The release in question: https://musicbrainz.org/release/ac5e1742-ec43-4.... I uploaded a (rather shitty, I must say) picture of the back cover as illustration. How am I supposed to tag this?

Hi Niols! What do you mean by ‘tag’? How to tag your own files, or are you asking if the MusicBrainz entry is correct?

Based on the back cover the entry looks good, DiscID and everything :) Doesn’t give more than ‘SOUTH’ for the last track so I don’t see what else you could do.

that particular release has a cd disc id, so the tracks as listed in musicbrainz have to match this particular format as split on the cd.

Yes, the disk id is from me. Actually, I hadn't realised there was a 10th track considering only the back cover and I only added it after trying to add the disk id and having MB complain that it didn't have the right number of tracks.

Sorry about the poor wording. By “tagging”, I indeed meant “adding the entry to MB”!

All good, I figured it out in the end :D

I was basically wondering if the names of the parts should appear in the name of the tracks, or just somewhere at all.

Ah, the back cover doesn’t have any parts, are they inside the booklet?

For instance, for a classical piece, it seems common to have the tracks be named <name of the piece>: <name of the part>

(A random Mozart: https://musicbrainz.org/release/1f735c19-81e4-4...)

So I was wondering whether I should go for “8. Pipe Music: March & Reel Medley” and “9. Pipe Music: 3/4 Retreat Marches”, for instance. (And same for 1-7 but the name would be much longer to write on this channel :p)

You can find classical guidelines here, if you think that applies to this release: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical/Tra...

Or if the words “Pipe Music” and “Music for Seven Scottish Country Dances” should just not appear at all in the tracks.

Hum, I guess your right, then my question should rather be: do you think the classical guidelines should apply to such a CD? Its back cover makes me wonder.

Disclaimer: I don’t edit classical. But personally I’m not sure those groupings are a ‘work’, they’re more descriptive? Maybe someone else can chip in?

I probably wouldn’t treat them as a work, then you’d be changing all these as well: https://musicbrainz.org/release/098c5588-241b-4...

Hum, that sounds like the right distinction to make: these “sections” are only descriptive but the three groups they imply do not represent three pieces of work split over 10 tracks but indeed 10 pieces of work each on their own track. And therefore I should keep it as-is. I think I am rather convinced by this.

I don't edit folk but that sounds correct to me

Looks great then Niols! My only feedback is that the MusicBrianz subtitle divider is a colon, e.g. RSCDS Book 4: Music for Twelve Scottish Country Dances

Oh. Yes I guess I messed that up, didn't I. I'll have fun updating the 52 books in question :p

Thanks very much!

Oohhh snap, sorry haha

Actually, while we're mentioning RSCDS Books, I've always wondered whether I should include “RSCDS” in their title or not

Because it is more of a logo at the top, so technically I think the CD is only called “Book 4”?

On the other hand, this “Book” name only makes sense in the context of the RSCDS and it felt weird to only call a CD “Book 4”.

Personally I would leave it even if it’s just so the release is findable. I think you could potentially add ‘RSCDS’ as a label instead (it should maybe be the label in either case? or publisher?)

Yeah ‘Book 4’ is not a great title :S

Alright, then I should keep that. I think the RSCDS is many things at a time, including the label or the publisher or possibly even both

But I must admit labels and publishers always scared me so I'm not really often adding them...

Oh yeah? No need to be scared! It’s a good way of grouping all those RSCDS releases on one page somewhere

Stealing from Discogs is always a good start (not that you need to enter much info for a label if you don’t want to) - https://www.discogs.com/label/811891-Royal-Scot...

Maybe today is the day where I decide to add labels!

I will have to go through all the books to replace the dash by a colon anyways

You never *have* to do anything, don’t burn yourself out! But if you’re keen then yes please

I mean I just have to learn how to do it one day and then I can do it for all my subsequent edits

for classical you might want to also talk to reosarevok

I did add many folk CDs before figuring out what disc ids were

he might show up tomorrow

Oh, good to know! I'll be here.

Thank you very much for the help :-)