I just received the latest Dave's Picks Grateful Dead CD set. There are no disc id's for the cds in this set. but the release, with the correct tracks ARE on musicbrain. MDID=8eeda1b8-f99e-4b1c-8895-e11224f81304 (URL=https://musicbrainz.org/release/8eeda1b8-f99e…) I can't for the life of me figure out how to attach the
2023-02-06 03751, 2023
labaxter
diskID to each CD so that the cdripper can find it on musicbrainz. When I search for this release after trying to attach I disk ID in picard, I get the message "None of the mediums on this release can have the given CD TOC attached, because they have the wrong number of tracks." True, in that there are 4 CDs in this set, and the MBID record
2023-02-06 03752, 2023
labaxter
show that. How can I select each CD to attach the disc ID to?
2023-02-06 03757, 2023
derwin
you're asking in a fine place, but I don't know the answer
2023-02-06 03732, 2023
derwin
that said, I don't get what you're saying
2023-02-06 03754, 2023
derwin
"none of the mediums ... [has the right number of tracks]" seems pretty unambiguous?
2023-02-06 03706, 2023
derwin
how many tracks are in the CD TOC that you're trying to attach?
2023-02-06 03736, 2023
derwin
what's with the ">" characters in track names?
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labaxter
So, there are 4 CDs. I have the first in the CD drive. It has the same tracklist as is listed for CD1 on MB. I don't want to attach the CD to the entire release. I want to attach the CDid to the first CD in the list. And then do the same for the other 3CDs so my CD ripper, can find the metadata. But I can't figure out how to attache the
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labaxter
CDid to each CD in the release.
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labaxter
*attach*
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labaxter
Oh, the ">" refers to the fact that the tracks are continuous. For example, on this release CD2 starts with Bertha... and goes into a Jam, that ends with the begining of the second Track "Good Loving" the band didn't stop playing, but each song is a separate track on the CD. So, if one's play does not pause between tracks, you actually hear
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labaxter
what the audience heard.
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labaxter
The band was know of playing songs, and jamming to the next song... especially in second sets.
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labaxter
">" is a standard indication of that in the GD song lists.
2023-02-06 03702, 2023
crism
labaxter, what tool (what software, program) are you using to try to attach the disc ID to the medium in MusicBrainz?
2023-02-06 03750, 2023
labaxter
picard, which sends me to an MB webpage... they is where the message comes from.
So, OF COURSE the number of tracks is wrong because it appears I have no way to selecting the specific CD number in the listing. If I you can tell me how to do that, I'd be on my way.
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crism
I see, the message is “None of the mediums on this release can have the given CD TOC attached, because they have the wrong number of tracks.”
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labaxter
uh huh
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crism
Note that it says “none of the *mediums*…”
2023-02-06 03706, 2023
crism
So, it doesn’t think disc 1 actually lines up.
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crism
(Really should be “media”…)
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labaxter
That is incorrect though... it does line up.
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labaxter
I checked
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labaxter
(for CD1)
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labaxter
And I'm pretty sure the the remaining CDs
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labaxter
remember, 4 CDs in the release
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labaxter
And that is what you see in the MB release.
2023-02-06 03758, 2023
labaxter
One just need to attach the CDID to each of the CDs in the release
2023-02-06 03702, 2023
labaxter
If I start to create a whole other entry you'll have duplicate entries
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crism
The TOC you’re submitting looks a little weird to me… (and I see 5 HDCDs in that release).
2023-02-06 03748, 2023
labaxter
Wait...
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labaxter
AH... I wondered about that... it's not a CD. This appears to be a list of all the tracks on the first 3 CDs, the tracks of CD4 are missing. I would say that list does NOT belong as a CD.
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crism
The TOC you’re submitting really wants to be for a 13-track listing.
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crism
The Portland Paramount show disc 1 has 11 tracks…
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crism
How many tracks do you see on disc 1?
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labaxter
Damn... that tracklist is actually missing two tracks! (bertha and Good Lovin)
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crism
Well, there’s your problem!
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crism
I would create a new release within the release group.
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labaxter
(12 and 13)
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crism
It seems like a Rhino release probably doesn’t have that much variance… but the existing release seems kinda broken, if your info is correct.
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labaxter
Ugh
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crism
Never mind the disc 5 that you say doesn’t even exist.
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crism
You should be able to reuse the recordings from the current release.
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labaxter
it does not exist.
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labaxter
But now I see that there are two missing tracks in CD1
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labaxter
Let be check the others.
2023-02-06 03740, 2023
labaxter
Let *me*
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crism
Looking at the edit history creating this release, it looks like it was a messy beginner effort… your choices are to clean it up, start fresh, or give up. )-:
Thanks for the reference to the vote. I voted. Now I'll wait a week and see what happens.
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labaxter
MB is awesome, and your support is awesome. Thank you.
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aerozol
!m labaxter
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, labaxter!
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aerozol
!m crism
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, crism!
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aerozol
Back from a wedding, settle in, edit some MB… man it really is a comfort zone isn’t it :P
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derwin
18:43 < labaxter> Damn... that tracklist is actually missing two tracks! (bertha and Good Lovin)
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derwin
(nice, I figured that message was very specific, heh..)
2023-02-06 03726, 2023
derwin
the existing release looks kinda broken in general, heh, yeah.
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aerozol
Check out ‘open edits’ on that release for some real good spaghetti!
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
I'd figure that since it's been recently released someone had added it *before* it had released, and now it's a mess (remember kids, it's not cool to add pre-releases just *because* you wanna yell "first" :P)
2023-02-06 03702, 2023
duncan
there are several editors who add all of taylor swift's pre-announced titles which then turn out to be wrong and it takes them a week to fix it anyway
I want to add Apple Music/Spotify/Deezer etc. releases for this release group but am not sure whether to add these links to the release linked above or add them separately
2023-02-06 03721, 2023
cherryblossom
because the releases on streaming platforms have the translated tracklist (except for the Korea Apple Music release which has the Korean tracklist)
2023-02-06 03750, 2023
yvanzo
Hi cherryblossom. Usually if it has the same tracklist, you can use the same release.
2023-02-06 03756, 2023
yvanzo
(for digital release)
2023-02-06 03723, 2023
cherryblossom
It’s not the same tracklist though
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cherryblossom
E.g. on Spotify the track is ‘Polaris’
2023-02-06 03742, 2023
cherryblossom
I’m also not sure what to do because the release I linked is from Bandcamp and doesn’t have a UPC
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yvanzo
So make a different release as it is not the same tracklist.
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cherryblossom
Ok thanks
2023-02-06 03710, 2023
yvanzo
The situation is pretty blurry about this for now.
2023-02-06 03731, 2023
yvanzo
The two releases can be merged if it becomes clear later on that these should be the same release.
2023-02-06 03746, 2023
cherryblossom
Would the ‘translated track listing of’ relationship be appropriate here
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cherryblossom
I guess it has the English translation
2023-02-06 03700, 2023
cherryblossom
But it also has the original Korean title
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yvanzo
Yes.
2023-02-06 03743, 2023
yvanzo
If you want the Korean only, you can also enter a pseudo release and link it to the release with the two languages.
2023-02-06 03752, 2023
yvanzo
(I should set my system to display Hangul characters by the way...)
