hi2all. Let's say i want to check if i have in my library tracks, whose acoustID fingerprints not uploaded to MB yet - what tags i can check for this (see if they are empty)? I see some tracks have both AcoustID and AcoustID Fingerprint, while others have only one of this tags.
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outsidecontext
Darkloke: if there is an acoustid it means the file got looked up on AcoustId.org and got identified by it, so AcoustId.org already knows about the fingerprint or a very similar one. It does not tell you whether this acoustid is linked to a MB recording, though. you can't tell this from your metadata. easiest way if you know the files are properly tagged would be to resubmit them.
2023-03-29 08834, 2023
outsidecontext
the acoustid fingerprint tag holds the fingerprint as calculated from fpcalc. assuming the fingerprint is correct it can save you calling fpcalc again. apart from that it doesn't tell much except that the fingerprint got calculated once.
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outsidecontext
picard doesn't write the fingerprint by default, but it can be configured to do so
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Darkloke
Thx, <outsidecontext>. I suppose then i should look for acoustIDs, so if there are no such ones, i could upload them.
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outsidecontext
Darkloke: yes, that definitely.
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Darkloke
How AcoustID tag would be spelled for mp3s? In my player it works as ACOUSTID_ID for flacs, but show empty results for mp3s. Found these mappings: https://www.jthink.net/jaudiotagger/tagmapping.ht…, but using TXXX:Acoustid Id doesnt give me results either.
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outsidecontext
Darkloke: "TXXX:Acoustid Id" would be the correct ID3 tag. How and if your player makes it available I don't know, but common is that TXXX frames are made available by their name, so "Acoustid Id" might work
2023-03-29 08841, 2023
Darkloke
Yep, it works w/o TXXX, so thanks again, <outsidecontext>. :)
iconoclasthero: picard will keep existing values in the files instead of replacing them with the loaded data
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iconoclasthero
and that is per file?
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outsidecontext
tags are always per file
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iconoclasthero
also, is there some way to get Picard to move folders along with files
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iconoclasthero
ok.
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outsidecontext
how do you mean? you have a folder with some additional files you want to move?
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iconoclasthero
hang on a sec, i didn't have the the folder name right in the options.
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kepstin
if you have a folder name in the settings for "move additional files" it will move the folder
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iconoclasthero
if you have *the correct* folder name in the settings for "move...
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iconoclasthero
thanks, i got it now
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outsidecontext
:D
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iconoclasthero
ok, here's a tricker one.
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iconoclasthero
let's say that the files are like this: ./album/cd 1; ./album/cd 1; ./album/covers
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iconoclasthero
is there a way for picard to get ../covers?
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iconoclasthero
since it's reading the files from the nested folder
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kepstin
I honestly don't know :) It's possible that literally "../covers" would work, did you try that?
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iconoclasthero
i didn't, i was asking cuz i was here
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iconoclasthero
someone really needs to come up with a better way to checksum music files
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iconoclasthero
that ignores tags
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iconoclasthero
file names
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iconoclasthero
etc
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iconoclasthero
(speaking of moving files, e.g., *.ffp, *.md5)
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kepstin
that's easy enough with lossless codecs since you can do a checksum of the audio, flac even stores that checksum in a metadata header somewhere
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iconoclasthero
oh yeah.
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kepstin
but for other types... tricky :)
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iconoclasthero
well, for all the music from lossless legs...
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iconoclasthero
it's mostly flac with some shn.
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iconoclasthero
it still won't work with bittorrent though
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kepstin
indeed. With some newer linux filesysstems that support reflinks it's technically possible for the non-tag portion of the file to be shared with the copy from bittorrent in some cases, but it's hard to set up the circumstances for that to happen.
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iconoclasthero
no ../covers doesn't work
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iconoclasthero
well, consdering people who share stuff on LL don't seem to give any shits about tagging and naming, i doubt it'll ever move foreward.
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kepstin
too bad :( I don't run into that problem since i keep all disks of an album together in one folder, with a disk number prefix.
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iconoclasthero
but I'm happy to share all the DCMA-complient bootlegs I get from there...but you can't once you rename and tag them.
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iconoclasthero
and it looks like the etree site was last updated before the turn of the century
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iconoclasthero
at least etree is a label option now...thought i'm the only one who uses it except one person on one releae.
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iconoclasthero
again, etree/bootlegs and file tagging are two worlds that seem destined to never intersect.
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iconoclasthero
i'm in the sliver of that vendiagram that overlaps, lol
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kepstin
amusingly, ffmpeg can actually do what you want with checksums - run "ffmpeg -i <file> -c copy -f streamhash -" and it'll print out checksums of *just* the encoded media ignoring metadata, container, etc.
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iconoclasthero
i was trying to find how to print the stored one.
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iconoclasthero
then i saw a squirrel.
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kepstin
i don't know how to print it, but the "flac" command line tool can check it. Run "flac -V <file>" and it'll tell you if there's a checksum mismatch.
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kepstin
er, that needs some other options to work right, uh...
iconoclasthero: `metaflac --list --block-type=STREAMINFO filename.flac` will print the FLAC streaminfo header, which contains the MD5 checksum
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iconoclasthero
and it matches the .ffp files
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elomatreb[m]
oh, it even has that
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iconoclasthero
oooh the streaminfo
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iconoclasthero
well now i feel stupd for deleting all those .ffp fikes
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iconoclasthero
files
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iconoclasthero
umm.. preserve tags stays fixed across different release groups/artists.
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iconoclasthero
is this feature of picard documented anywhere?
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outsidecontext
iconoclasthero: what do you mean it stays fixed? All that option does is that if you load a file and tag it against the MB metadata the preserved tags will be kept at the original value from the file
