(looking at the SetInDifferentRG report for a bit)
2024-03-05 06552, 2024
trolley has quit
2024-03-05 06514, 2024
trolley joined the channel
2024-03-05 06540, 2024
kellnerd
reosarevok: The last two are definitely series (which were sold individually, I even have them on cassette), so I've created RG series for them and removed the deprecated rels.
2024-03-05 06545, 2024
kellnerd
For the first one I really don't know for sure: They look as if each disc has a different barcode, but Wikipedia states that the CDs were sold in boxes of 5 CDs... Not sure if that was the only form in which they were released or whether the boxes are only the later reissue.
2024-03-05 06518, 2024
reosarevok
Thanks!
2024-03-05 06553, 2024
kellnerd
Ok, according to promotion from a booklet on Discogs, the CDs were also available individually, at least the first ten. Doesn't clearly help for the relationships on CD 11 to 15, but a good indicator that it's probably safe to simply remove them.
2024-03-05 06507, 2024
kellnerd
And judging from images of the boxes which I have found, they package the CDs in cardboard sleeves instead of jewel cases, so I will go ahead and remove the set relationships.
2024-03-05 06552, 2024
atj
reosarevok: any chance we can add a "tonmeister position at" artist -> place relationship credit?
I think though that the most sensible thing to do for now is just add "task" to the engineer position for places like we have elsewhere
2024-03-05 06556, 2024
reosarevok
I allowed that option for now, feel free to use "engineer" with task Tonmeister
2024-03-05 06519, 2024
atj
great, thanks
2024-03-05 06500, 2024
xeitor joined the channel
2024-03-05 06520, 2024
xeitor has quit
2024-03-05 06535, 2024
xeitor joined the channel
2024-03-05 06520, 2024
xeitor has quit
2024-03-05 06518, 2024
xeitor joined the channel
2024-03-05 06529, 2024
xeitor has quit
2024-03-05 06539, 2024
ttpcodes has quit
2024-03-05 06530, 2024
ttpcodes joined the channel
2024-03-05 06554, 2024
atj
reosarevok: task text should be in sentence case, correct? i may be missing something obvious but I can't see any specific mention of it in the style guidelines
<09thibauth> thanks at: and reosarevok: ! I just replied to the edit but figured it would be faster here
2024-03-05 06503, 2024
discordbrainz
<09thibauth> I'm also in favor in keeping Tonmeister capitalized, due do it being German
2024-03-05 06517, 2024
ApeKattQuest
+1 to kapitalise german (although it's a pita when lowercasing eerything else remembering it)
2024-03-05 06519, 2024
ApeKattQuest
:D
2024-03-05 06550, 2024
discordbrainz
<09thibauth> also, I see the point about balance engineer in the style guide, but as I wrote in my edit, these days it usually appears as "Recording enginner (Tonmeister): John Smith" on releases by the Deutsche Grammophon, so I wonder whether we should use the recording engineer relationship in those cases
2024-03-05 06516, 2024
discordbrainz
<09thibauth> in which case we would also need a "task" attribute on this relationship... let me know what you think
2024-03-05 06531, 2024
minimal joined the channel
2024-03-05 06503, 2024
ApeKattQuest
i think a free-text task relationship is a good idea for most rels. but I understand that it might create problems because people can be stupid ™
2024-03-05 06532, 2024
ApeKattQuest
reosarevok: ^^^
2024-03-05 06559, 2024
discordbrainz
<09thibauth> this is the eternal tension in data modeling: as your model becomes more expressive you increase the chances of people misusing it and you also decrease the ability to do cool things with the data (in the limiting case of maximum expressiveness, you just have one big text fields that would contain all the credits...). so sometimes there is value in making your model less expressive and forcing people to make their data fit
2024-03-05 06559, 2024
discordbrainz
into carefully crafted "boxes" 🙂 but it's a hard balance to find...
2024-03-05 06550, 2024
atj
thibauth: yep it's definitely a balancing act. To be fair, these types of relationship credits are not used that much, so the risk of misuse is fairly low.
2024-03-05 06515, 2024
discordbrainz
<09thibauth> yes good point. I'm definitely biased here because I mostly edit classical releases for which these credits are almost always given in the booklet and I'm a bit obsessive about adding everything that appears on the booklet 🙂
2024-03-05 06554, 2024
discordbrainz
<09thibauth> also I used to be quite involved in the wikidata community where these kind of questions about data modeling are everywhere and I usually find them quite fascinating to think about 🙂
2024-03-05 06526, 2024
thuna` joined the channel
2024-03-05 06558, 2024
reosarevok
atj: to be fair, a report has been requested for "stuff with task fields" because people use them for all the wrong things :p
2024-03-05 06502, 2024
reosarevok
But I still think they're useful
2024-03-05 06533, 2024
relaxoMob has quit
2024-03-05 06551, 2024
relaxoMob joined the channel
2024-03-05 06539, 2024
Abhi222 joined the channel
2024-03-05 06501, 2024
Abhi222 has quit
2024-03-05 06519, 2024
Abhi4 joined the channel
2024-03-05 06538, 2024
Abhi4
Hello friends, i am having problem while setting up the development environment in my windows machine could help me sorting out this problem.
