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phoenix_05[m]
quick question; making a new artist entry and I've added a fanbox link to the external links section - what type does it come under? patronage pages?
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applecuckoo[m]1
phoenix_05[m]: I guess so? that would make the most sense to me, though I don't edit MusicBrainz that much
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phoenix_05[m]
it also makes sense to me, which is why I suggested that, but I wanted some confirmation
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elomatreb[m]
phoenix_05 (@_discord_502736866169061386:chatbrainz.org) without being familiar with that site specifically, it looks like a Patreon-style thing, so it would fit that URL definition pretty exactly
2025-03-22 08159, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
cool
2025-03-22 08125, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
I have a skeb link of the artist as well; but I don't see a type related to commissioning
2025-03-22 08113, 2025
elomatreb[m]
Is that fanbox site common and does it offer other services besides that Patreon-style funding?
2025-03-22 08132, 2025
elomatreb[m]
We may want to add it to our auto-recognized URL list so that it automatically selects the relationship type
2025-03-22 08101, 2025
elomatreb[m]
skeb is like a marketplace thing?
2025-03-22 08149, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
I just know it's an art commissioning site; don't much apart from that
2025-03-22 08101, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
here's a link I found about it- <https://medium.com/skeb-jp/guide-154f3a80c3b6>
2025-03-22 08154, 2025
elomatreb[m]
it sounds like it's mostly for digital drawing? That might be a little out of scope for MB
2025-03-22 08121, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
i mean, you have to add artists for design/illustration roles..
2025-03-22 08146, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
and MB already has pixiv on auto-recog
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elomatreb[m]
true
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elomatreb[m]
I guess the best we have right now is the Patronage relationship, the way its definition is worded doesn't necessarily require recurring payment I guess
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elomatreb[m]
might be worth a ticket though
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elomatreb[m]
@applecuckoo: Is there something specific you're missing from that Work databases page?
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phoenix_05[m] uploaded an image: (8KiB) < https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/RlPrysZmdzzEudnzwXqQwBJS/image.png >
2025-03-22 08134, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
also, does this go under editor or vocals arranger? (although this is a vocaloid song)
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elomatreb[m]
unless something specifically credits *arrangement* I think I would go with the more generic "vocal editor"
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phoenix_05[m]
there isn't a `vocal editor` type though?
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elomatreb[m]
it's an attribute on the plain editor relationship
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phoenix_05[m]
elomatreb (@_discord_681477816029675521:chatbrainz.org) the part that lets you specify lead vocals and stuff?
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elomatreb[m]
yeah
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elomatreb[m]
for popular music "lead vocals" is usually the right choice
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phoenix_05[m]
this recording has three singers; do I just specify lead vocals, then?
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elomatreb[m]
probably yes
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phoenix_05[m]
cool, thanks
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phoenix_05[m] uploaded an image: (24KiB) < https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/kRtLKUxONrPbrEnGRCtQHmPH/image.png >
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phoenix_05[m]
this label says it isn't for use and gives catalog number hints to figure out which branch you use instead - but do digital media releases even have catalog numbers?
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elomatreb[m]
yes, but streaming platforms generally don't expose them
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elomatreb[m]
but e.g. on platforms like Bandcamp they are listed somewhat frequently, and some labels have websites with a catalog where they show the numbers
2025-03-22 08140, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
I guess that's why the release I'm about to edit has this general label applied instead
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phoenix_05[m]
hmm, also, this release has the dates sorta(?) off
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phoenix_05[m]
spotify lists the song's date as `2004-11-15` but qobuz has it at `2004-11-12` (and both are linked on the release, weirdly enough)
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phoenix_05[m]
I would've thought the earlier date would be prioritized
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elomatreb[m]
considering both of those platforms didn't exist in 2004 those dates are slightly suspicious anyway
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phoenix_05[m]
discogs has it at 2004 flat
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phoenix_05[m]
for this release.. <https://musicbrainz.org/release/62472166-795d-46cd-b474-9fe458551c21> the ISRC I got on Deezer was `JPR502204174`, and when I looked up the Spotify ISRC, it was also `JPR502204174`
2025-03-22 08153, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
why does the release include both of these while having an ISRC of `JPR502301479`?
2025-03-22 08117, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
on a related note, where do I search/confirm an ISRC for a release?
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elomatreb[m]
the most common source are online importer tools like https://harmony.pulsewidth.org.uk/, but it's also possible for CDs to contain ISRCs encoded into the disc
2025-03-22 08104, 2025
elomatreb[m]
regarding that specific ISRC, it's possible for a single Musicbrainz recording to have more than one ISRC, and for each ISRC to be linked to multiple MB recordings. Sometimes they are just double-assigned by the issuer
2025-03-22 08125, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
yes; I've seen this, but I'm unsure as to what the source for that ISRC is
oh right, it should be in the recording editing history, not the release
2025-03-22 08126, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
they're all from Yuno's Tranquilizer album, which has a different ISRC as compared to the single
2025-03-22 08121, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
i noticed this on Picard; even after I add the proper ISRC, I'm guessing both will be listed on the track's metadata?
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elomatreb[m]
not sure if Picard will add both ISRCs, but the musicbrainz website will list it
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phoenix_05[m]
wait, the recording should have both ISRCs, shouldn't the releases have their specific ISRCs?
2025-03-22 08148, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
* wait, if the recording
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elomatreb[m]
which release an ISRC came from is not expressed in the MB schema in its current form
2025-03-22 08156, 2025
elomatreb[m]
and arguably that's the right way to do it, an ISRC is an identifier for a recording, in an ideal world every release would list the same one for the same track
2025-03-22 08138, 2025
phoenix_05[m]
elomatreb (@_discord_681477816029675521:chatbrainz.org) hmm, but then why do tracks have multiple ISRCs?
