I think a musical director is more of an arranger/music producer role
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thelittleoutside
💀
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thelittleoutside
internet works okay btw
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thelittleoutside
another outage probably or--
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thelittleoutside
okay looked it up on bluesky and seems like there is an outage
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aerozol[m]
Is that Spotify?
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elkiensad[m]
<aerozol[m]> "Is that Spotify?" <- yeah
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aerozol[m]
"oh no"
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thelittleoutside
it's alive now
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thelittleoutside
listens are importing but i don't see my current song in the "listening now" tab
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levi_op[m]
what is the general opinion on "implicit" relationships? specifically, i see sometimes see releases being added and then the features on each track are added as "performers" to their respective recordings. in my mind, (and this is just my personal feeling), the recording-artist relationships should be documentation of explicit credits written in liners or booklets, etc.
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levi_op[m]
if i'm wrong about this feeling, does that mean everyone should be adding "vocal performance" relationships for every single recording by an artist where their voice is heard?
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reosarevok[m]
Yes :)
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reosarevok[m]
(if it's true and certain)
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reosarevok[m]
That then allows data users to know where they actually sing :)
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reosarevok[m]
(as opposed to, say, instrumentals released under their name)
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levi_op[m]
makes sense i guess
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levi_op[m]
in that case, i'm surprised i don't see _more_ edits just adding vocal performance relationships for popular releases
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reosarevok[m]
Well, most people don't add relationships at all 🤷♂️
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levi_op[m]
true i guess 🫠
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reosarevok[m]
But in most releases, I do expect you'd still find a credit like "vocals: X" in the notes / booklet if one exists
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reosarevok[m]
I guess some might be truly implied
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levi_op[m]
for most genres, yeah, but i primarily work with hip-hop releases where "vocals" isn't really a term that's used
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reosarevok[m]
Yeah, fair, I was also thinking about hip hop rn and wondering if I've seen those credits or not
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reosarevok[m]
I have in some cases but certainly often they are skipped
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reosarevok[m]
(same for featured artists too, often it will just say "ft X" - if it's clearly a vocal featuring, add a vocal rel)
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levi_op[m]
welp, release fixing just got even more tedious 😄
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reosarevok[m]
I dunno, I find that part often fairly easy
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reosarevok[m]
Finding and crediting all the producers is a lot harder 😅
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levi_op[m]
true, it's mostly annoying when people have done the job half way and you have to fix it
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levi_op[m]
like people will add "performer" relationship but not vocal performer even though it's obvious that it's their voice
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levi_op[m]
or not add to all tracks, or miss some stuff, etc
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levi_op[m]
it's sometimes easier to start from a blank release with no relationships than to have to check someone else's medicore work
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thelittleoutside
used to do that a lot, bonk me
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hibiscuskazeneko
Will there be an announcement on social media when MB (and the other Brainz projects) are back up and running?
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reosarevok[m]
I expect so :)
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reosarevok[m]
Shouldn't be long now
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reosarevok[m]
hibiscuskazeneko (and everyone else): still working on LB / CB stuff, but MB should be pretty much back, bitmap is rebuilding a couple last bits but no longer read-only anyway
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I have a record coauthored by an artist with pretty much none info of them. Their spotify profile is empty besides that one song, no bio, no profile picture, no nothing, with a pretty generic name that other artists (not in musicbrainz) already use, so I was wondering what should I do.
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levi_op[m]
kind-of followup question about "implicit" relationships from earlier —
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levi_op[m]
you'll often just see recording location or engineers or mixing credits for an entire release in a booklet, not individual tracks
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levi_op[m]
but sometimes people will add all of the mixers / engineers / recording places to every recording on the release
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levi_op[m]
i've always thought you should use release-level relationships if you aren't sure about the specific recordings. is that right?
