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      • levi_op[m]
        should the cover art archive also be used for pictures of the entire release as a whole? (so that the packaging can be ascertained / sourced objectively?) considering that a lot of data about somewhat obscure releases will come from discogs, and discogs has very... muddy guidelines about "images", it's very often the case that there will just be a picture of the medium itself without any mention of what the packaging was. often
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      • levi_op[m]
        times, i can go to ebay or other sites and find full images of the release which show the cardboard sleeve, or the envelope, or the jewel case that the medium comes enclosed in
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      • levi_op[m]
        i can use this as a source to say "this release used this packaging type", but what if the ebay listing goes down? or for some reason this source isn't availalble to people in the future? that's why i imagine i should be able to somehow show definitively what kind of packaging a release used with the cover art archive somehow
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Yes
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      • reosarevok[m]
        That is fine
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      • reosarevok[m]
        You can mark it as raw/unedited (or whatever the wording was) if it's a hot mess
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      • levi_op[m]
        and if it's not a hot mess? what's the primary type, "other?"
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Well, "raw/unedited" is kinda "this is not a tagging photo"
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      • reosarevok[m]
        So basically, if it shows the front, use "front" + "raw"
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      • aerozol[m]
        I thought raw/unedited was more for images that need editing (e.g. uncropped)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Well, an image of a bunch of stuff with also the album arguably needs cropping? 🤷‍♂️
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      • aerozol[m]
        What I was picturing, from the question, is more like an image that is unsavable/of the whole release from a distance
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Yes, I do not think we have a better way of doing it tho? Or do we
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      • kellnerd[m]
        I think I had once proposed a new image type for overview/packaging shots, but I got used to using raw for these as well.
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      • aerozol[m]
        I think I just leave em blank or use other. But I don't know if it's that important... I apologize for turning even the simplest MB question into yet another discussion 😅
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      • levi_op[m]
        don't apologize for clarifying! it's better that we all understand the problem than not being sure and not having a good answer
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      • levi_op[m]
        it seems to specifically imply that it _could_ be one of the other types, but it's not suitable to be tagged as such because it's unedited
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      • aerozol[m]
        I would say that there's no editing to be done, its purpose is to show the whole package so it's the final version of that image (potentially only until better images are found, when it could be deleted)
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      • levi_op[m]
        kellnerd: when you say proposed, do you mean a jira ticket or just a message / forum post somewhere
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      • levi_op[m]
        "Cardboard/Paper Sleeve" is the correct packaging type for so-called "o-cards" for cassettes, right?
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      • levi_op[m]
        if so, i'd like to add that detail to the wiki so that there is no confusion. is there any kind of restriction on editing the wiki? do the docs show the most recent version of the wiki always?
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      • BrainzBot
        STYLE-1331: Add more cover art types (panels, j-cards, u-cards, o-cards)
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      • Lotheric[m]
        somewhat related ticket
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      • NOTICE: STYLE-1331 (https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-1331): Add more cover art types (panels, j-cards, u-cards, o-cards)