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      • derwin
      • aerozol
        wow 'interesting' discussions here of late huh
      • Anyway, how's music?
      • CatQuest
        music is THE BEST
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      • aerozol
        Ahh, I'm really tempted to merge all these 'lead albums' into this group as promotional releases. Somebody stop me
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      • reosarevok
        aerozol: are they just extracts from the main thing? There was a thread on the forums about that recently, if so
      • I'd personally say those are not equivalent
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      • aerozol
        reosarevok: not sure what you mean about extracts? But I think so, yes. They were publically available with text on the digital store page saying "These tracks will be on the full album release available March 17"
      • I also think they probably shouldn't be merged. But I want to tiiiiiidddyyyy
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      • reosarevok
        Well, I'd argue they're pretty tidy if they are already linked nicely ;)
      • Are the recordings already shared?
      • Updating beta (just new translations)
      • Updating main servers
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      • cam1170
        Hi! The version of MediaWiki that runs wiki.musicbrainz.org went end-of-life September 30, so someone should update it to the latest LTS. Instructions here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
      • Should I mention this anywhere else?
      • antlarr
        I'm sorry, I think at some point I already asked this but I don't remember the answer. Is there any policy wrt adding podcasts to musicbrainz? Maybe adding the podcast itself as Release Group (Broadcast/Spokenword) and then each podcast program as a Release? Or maybe it would make more sense to have the podcast itself as a Series (with a new type "Podcast") and just add each podcast program as a different Release Group/
      • Release in that series?
      • reosarevok
        cam1170: thanks. legoktm[m] ^ do you have any time to help with that?
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      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: “Breton music” is most often used to designate traditional music from Brittany or contemporary music inspired from it. It certainly differentiates from “folk” but it isn’t necessarily a subgenre.
      • Actually “folk” in French can have two distinctive meanings: “folk” (f) designates (mostly contemporary song) folk music from English-speaking countries (Baez, Dylan…), and “folk” (m) designates (mostly progressive dance) folk music from France and Western Europe.
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      • derwin
        antlarr: I would think series/release group is the correct model for podcasts.
      • antlarr
        derwin: is it currently used for any podcast?
      • derwin
      • I'm pretty sure most of those shouldn't have "Album" and should just have "DJ-Mix" ...
      • CatQuest
        was gonna say, series + rg/release
      • so what derwin said
      • antlarr
        perfect, thanks!
      • I see that example uses "Release group series" as series type. Maybe it makes sense to have a "Podcast" type for series?
      • nice, at least the series links have a "podcast feed" type
      • I've added https://musicbrainz.org/series/dd80bf63-17c3-4c... and I'll continue adding episodes when I have some time
      • heyarne[m]
        Is there a userscript that makes auto-filling relationships for remixes and edits easier? I'm talking about really simple cases like this one: https://musicbrainz.org/recording/cd73425c-bdcd...
      • The original recording is on the same release and the remixing artist is already listed
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      • derwin
        I think there is, but maybe I'm hallucinating it..
      • that release is credited wrong, however
      • the remix artist should not be credited on remixes
      • heyarne[m]
        derwin: ah! good to know
      • derwin: thanks
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      • gavinatkinson
        Hopefully this is the right place to ask this question... S Club 7 was a 7-piece UK pop band. In early 2002 one member left, at which point theremaining six rebranded as just "S Club". They split in mid 2003, and all seven reformed in 2014 for a year. This is already all represented within MB.
      • In 2008 three members of the original line-up formed a spin-off band, S Club 3, mainly performing on the festival and nightclub circuit, and not initially releasing any new music. The lineup of this spinoff band changed a couple of times, including a brief stint with a fourth member of the original S Club 7 during which time they were known as S Club Party. In 2017 the band released their
      • only single, credited as SC3. In 2020 the trio became a duo and renamed themselves S Club Live, by this point only one of the original S Club 3 members remain.
      • Possibly significantly, both S Club 7 and S Club 3 existed at the same time during 2014, as separate bands sharing three or four of the same members. How should all of this be represented in MB? Is S Club 3 an alias of S Club 7? Or are they (as I suspect) classed as a separate group in their own right? And if so, are all the various iterations of S Club 3 the same band, despite changing
      • their name each time the lineup changed?
      • crism
        gavinatkinson: ugh!
      • How do the fans and performers, as best as you can tell, think of the situation?
      • It sounds to me like there are two groups: original and spin-off, and each have changed names and membership multiple times.
      • But if the fans think of S Club 3 and S Club Live as different bands completely, then not.
      • It does not sound to me like there is only one act, though.
      • gavinatkinson
        They'd always appear as "S Club 3" on e.g. festival posters, etc. Given the original band had split and with no sign of reforming, it was assumed the new band was all that was going to exist going forwards
      • I sort of feel that creating a band "S Club 3" with Live and Party as aliases likely fits best how fans etc would have seen them
      • cam1170
        I would have S Club Party and S Club Live be separate groups
      • But idk the history
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      • gavinatkinson
        OK, thanks! That's really useful, I'll have a think about it and see if I can tell whether fans thought of them as different bands or not
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      • aerozol
        antlarr, I also had the same idea re. podcasts. Here was my suggestion (same as yours, where rg = series): https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Aerozol#Release
      • But it didn't get any consensus so the current way is indeed to make a rg for every episode!
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