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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: no, just some pans
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      • Gentlecat
        also need something to hang all my google shirts on
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      • Gentlecat
        I'll look at the code when I get back home
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      • Gentlecat
        ~47 minutes
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      • ruaok
        oh broccoli, yes!
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      • ruaok
        ok, that should be fine. getting things home from there without a car can be fun.
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      • Gentlecat likes fun
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      • alastairp
        brocoli!
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      • alastairp
        wait
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      • alastairp
        I wanted to say
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      • alastairp
        ikea!
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      • Gentlecat
        even if I were to buy big things, I have no place to put them
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      • Gentlecat
        bike is taking all the space
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      • ruaok
        that's what I though.
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      • ruaok will now crawl home and take a nap
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      • ruaok
        yay, search freaking out.
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      • ruaok
        zas: the trick of dropping the global limit and raising it again, worked fine. :)
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      • zas
        ruaok, yes, but we still need to find a way to prevent this
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: there?
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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: what if we store dataset as json?
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      • alastairp
        I’m not against that idea
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      • Gentlecat
        it should be easier to work with them that way
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      • Gentlecat
        so are we going to use complete dataset for testing?
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      • alastairp
        yeah, a lot less work
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      • Gentlecat
        or just a part that we cut from it before training?
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      • alastairp
        no, only the cut part
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      • Gentlecat
        also, what is that second part called?
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      • alastairp
        training set
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      • Gentlecat
        ok, so that's training set
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      • alastairp
        yes
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      • alastairp
        test set, train set
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      • Gentlecat
        let's say there are 2 classes
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      • Gentlecat
        one has 2 recordings, another 3 recordings
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      • Gentlecat
        all from different artists
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      • Gentlecat
        so we remove 1 recording from second dataset during normalization
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      • Gentlecat
        how are we going to test then?
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      • alastairp
        ah, right
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      • Gentlecat
        or even if we don't do normalization
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      • Gentlecat
        when every single recording in a class is from a different artist
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      • alastairp
        so, for one we’ll have much larger datasets, so this may happen less
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      • alastairp
        but you’re right, it still may be a problem
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      • Gentlecat
        but that still can happen
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      • alastairp
        normally the test set is a proportion of the test set
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      • alastairp
        uh
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      • alastairp
        test is a proportion of train
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      • Gentlecat
        or training set will be too small
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      • Gentlecat
        I mean testing
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      • alastairp
        so we could do the filtering, and then if the test set is still less than 20% of the full dataset, randomly select more
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      • alastairp
        you’re asking questions which are at the limit of my experience
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      • Gentlecat
        :(
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      • alastairp
        I’ll have to check with some others when they get here, but that won’t be until monday
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      • blup
        generally, how many pages is one day of scrobbles? I've got 6 days to import so... how many pages do you reccon?
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      • blup
        (given continuous listening for 24 hours)
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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: I'll go take a nap as well
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      • Gentlecat
        will try to implement something today
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      • blup
        heh, seems 45 pages
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      • blup
        arg.. wtf does the max_ts thing mean? i can't really work with that ot skip pages backwards
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      • blup
        also it's ot picking up the most recent listens, see https://listenbrainz.org/user/CatCat contra http://www.last.fm/user/nasasie/library
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      • zas
        ruaok, i checked logs about the issue with the search servers today
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      • zas
        i isolated queries on public/search and i didn't see anything special about them
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      • ruaok notes that the sausages are in the fridge and wine stashed away.
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      • zas
        the cause is the same as yesterday, but this time monit restarted tomcat on roobarb
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      • ruaok
        odd, so odd.
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      • zas
        monit is restarting both servers a lot of time per day, but it doesn't result in the chaos
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      • zas
        i mean doesnt always
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      • zas
        Oct 23 14:59:03
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      • zas
        is the exact time where all started
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      • zas
        confirmed by nginx logs
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      • ruaok
        I'm guessing it has to do with the amount of traffic.
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      • zas
        not sure, because the traffic was not unusually high
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      • ruaok
        but this only happens near our daily traffic peak.
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      • zas
        i wonder why search servers can't catch up
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      • zas
        monit restart them when they eat 12Gb
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: have you seen the email from Cheng Wang? Seems like your kind of thing
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      • ruaok
        yea, except he asked about how to change the muffler belt on his flux capacitor.
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      • ruaok
        can you please direct him to join us here and ask questions?
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      • reosarevok
        Ok!
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      • reosarevok sighs at the BBC. They wanted me to do a short job for them. Which would be much simpler if they didn't send me their non-Latin strings as stuff like "Антон Степанович Аренский"
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      • reosarevok thought in 2015 we wouldn't see that stuff anymore
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      • ruaok
        whaddya mean? I love that piece!
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      • reosarevok
        Dude. It's a dude :p
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      • reosarevok
        (Anton Arensky, to be precise)
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      • reosarevok
        But really, no Unicode support? In 2015? From a major company?
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      • ruaok
        lol
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      • reosarevok
        Dunno. I know I'm whiny and all, but still.
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      • reosarevok
        Sigh
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      • ruaok
        not news to us. :)
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