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      • lefthand
        hello
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      • lefthand
        anyone here?
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      • CallerNo6
        hi lefthand
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      • lefthand
        CallerNo6: what is this channel about?
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      • Leftmost
        MetaBrainz and MetaBrainz projects.
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      • lefthand
        Leftmost: what are those? Programming projects?
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      • lefthand
        explain a little about it, thanks
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      • Leftmost
        I suggest you do some research first.
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      • Leftmost
        The websites for MetaBrainz and MusicBrainz both do a pretty good job of explaining what we are, I'd say.
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      • lefthand
        Leftmost: so basically you felt like typing a bunch of text without helpinh
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      • lefthand
        helping*
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      • lefthand
        nerd xD
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      • lefthand
        jk, luv u
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      • Leftmost
        I realize that wasn't the friendliest way to handle that, but I find it galling when a person can't do the least bit of research on their own.
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      • legoktm
        heh
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      • legoktm
        it's amusing when someone comes into #wikimedia-office and starts asking questions about MS office
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      • CallerNo6
        With GCi going on, we should assume that some people will wander in with no context.
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      • Leftmost
        I do assume that, but I also expect that people coming in with no context will be willing to spend two or three minutes reading up on their own. If not, they're going to struggle.
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      • legoktm
        usually people interested via GCI will say that they're from GCI.
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      • CallerNo6
        ah, fair point
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      • rodarmor
        Hey, random question: How many tracks total are their in the musicbrainz database?
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      • rodarmor
        *there
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Gentlecat
        19,269,161
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      • rodarmor
        Gentlecat: Awesome, thank you very much!
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      • ruaok
        zas: > @mayhemchaos there's no "latency", if first dns server in resolv.conf doesn't answer, the resolver tries the next one.
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      • ruaok
        no answer == the latency I mean.
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      • ruaok
        how long does it wait for answer before trying the next?
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      • ruaok
        the other comment I have is that will always favor on gateway machine over the other.
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      • ruaok
        not sure if that is bad, but I know our previous design was a fully bi-stable set of gateways
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      • zas
        ah, yes, it depends on resolv.conf timeout delay which is 5 seconds by default
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      • zas
        it can be reduced to 1 sec
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      • zas
        see man 5 resolv.conf
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      • ruaok
        this then means that while ernie is down, every DNS request takes 1s.
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      • ruaok
        that begs the question: a momentary no DNS or a longer running slow down of DNS
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      • ruaok
        momentary seems a little better to me, TBH.
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      • zas
        ruaok: have a look on my comment on trello
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      • ruaok
        zas: I like your suggestion that uses rotate. good hybrid solution. :)
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      • ruaok
        I'd say go for it.
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      • zas
        ok
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      • zas
        i'll give it a run on VMs ensuring it works as expected
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      • zas
        then i'll deploy it
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      • ruaok
        wb hughrawlinson
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      • ruaok
        here is the branch that has the rate limiting:
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      • ruaok
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      • hughrawlinson
        cool, thanks
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        zas: are you on the latest edition of search server disaster?
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      • ruaok is on it
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      • zas
        again...
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      • zas
        ruaok: don't forget to check where is the ratelimiter now ;) it switched last evening, i know why and i'll provide a fix for that, it shouldn't have
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: so I looked at stanza.io some more and it looks less and less appealing
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      • Gentlecat
        first of all it doesn't work with recent versions of node
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Gentlecat
        is there any particular reason this library was suggested?
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      • ruaok
        this is what Arc Riley suggested to me, but I didn't look at it closely.
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      • ruaok
        he also said that there were lots of them out there.
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      • Gentlecat
        right, ok
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      • ruaok
        so, have a look around and see if you can find something better.
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      • Gentlecat
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      • Gentlecat
        other thing I wanted to clarify is what we plan to use it for
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      • Gentlecat
        and is it supposed to be somehow integrated with discourse
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      • ruaok
        nice, glade there are other options.
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      • ruaok
        for now, no plans to integrate with discourse.
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      • ruaok
        first implement a user-to-user messaging system
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      • ruaok
        the plan for the js stuff is to create a in browser interface that talks to our XMPP server.