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        wtf?
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      • Leftmost
        I'm gone for a few minutes and you guys let the whole place descend into chaos. :-P
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      • LordSputnik
        Wow, I've never had so much fun reading a chatlog before
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      • zas
        nor i ;)
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      • zas
        Good morning, Ben
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      • LordSputnik
        Hey zas, how're you and the servers this morning?
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      • Leftmost
        Don't ask that. It's bad luck.
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      • zas
        search servers didn't crash since the meeting yesterday, so ... all is fine until now
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      • LordSputnik
        good :)
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      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: had any more thoughts about merging some of our repositories? If we're going to do it, it might be better to get it done before GCI starts
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      • LordSputnik
        I'm going to move bookbrainz-data to join the old node-ws and node-schema in the abandoned repositories area (my Bitbucket)
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      • Leftmost
        Well, we'd just be merging -ws and -site, right? If we do that, I'd prefer to wait until we're using the same language for them.
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      • Leftmost
        -data, not -data-js?
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      • LordSputnik
        Yeah -data
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      • LordSputnik
        The Python package I started to parse JSON models and auto-generate code
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      • LordSputnik
        Which turned out to be even more of a nightmare than anticipated ;)
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      • Leftmost
        :)
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      • LordSputnik
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      • LordSputnik
        Should we renamed bookbrainz-schema to bookbrain-data-python?
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      • LordSputnik
        +z
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      • Leftmost
        Probably, once we've switched over. I'd say keep it as-is while it's still in use.
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      • Leftmost
        Or rather, while it's still in use as-is.
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      • LordSputnik
        OK
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      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: is it worth writing down properties we'd eventually like entities to have in the schema document?
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      • LordSputnik
        That way we could make sure that the schema we end up with doesn't prevent us from expanding in the future
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      • Leftmost
        Hmm. Such as what? For me the general idea is to get down something flexible that is unlikely to prevent us from doing whatever. We're not going to be able to anticipate every potential property.
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      • LordSputnik
        OK, I've written some stuff down (unrelated to additional properties), will likely add some more thoughts/comments later
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      • LordSputnik has a lecture now!
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      • Freso lectures LordSputnik
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      • Freso
        CallerNo6 chirlu`, thank you for "volunteering" to keep the fort overnight. ;)
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      • LordSputnik
        Freso: now that botbot supports [off], can we cloud host the chatlogs now, or is there something else stopping that from happening?
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      • Freso
        LordSputnik: ... That's what we're doing?
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      • Freso
        Or I don't get what you're asking?
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      • LordSputnik
        Ermm, I mean, can they be hosted with botbot rather than on our own cloud instance? (I forgot that nomo *was* cloud)
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      • LordSputnik
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      • Freso
        Would you really want to? BotBot's IRC logs are down on all other channels (except for #lincolnloop - it seems they've brought it back for their own channel) for several days now.
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      • Freso
        But also, no, we can't.
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      • Freso
        Because the [off] requires a per channel setting.
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      • Freso
        And they're not going to do that.
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      • LordSputnik
        It's not possible to configure the plugins per-channel on botbot.me?
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      • Freso
        It is.
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      • LordSputnik
        But [off] is just a plugin
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      • Freso
        If you're an administrator there.
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      • Freso
        Which we're not.
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      • LordSputnik
        Ah, OK
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      • Freso
        Only #lincolnloop people have admin access on botbot.me, so there is no per‐channel customisation.
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      • Freso
        It would also not be possible to move over all our current/old logs.
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      • LordSputnik
        OK, I'll attempt to update our installation to the latest version again, and see if it works this time
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      • LordSputnik
        Then if that works we can start applying the changes from the summit
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      • Freso
        👍
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      • ruaok finish reading the backscroll
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      • ruaok
        Yay drama! Yay not me fixing it. :-)
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      • ruaok
        CallerNo6: makes an interesting point. There was no warning for his actions. Might be nice to warn people in the future...
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      • Freso
        ruaok: They were already way out of line and I didn't ban them. They were free to re-enter the channel.
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      • Freso
        (Which they did, just a while later.)
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      • Freso
        I didn't want to give them the opportunity to send the next line they were probably/possibly already typing up.
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      • chirlu`
        People had told them that they were overstepping the line.
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      • zas
        ruaok: i'll need your help for writing search servers installation cookbooks, the info in syswiki is rare and/or old ('check out the search server code from svn and build according to INSTALL.', yes ...)
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      • zas
        also there were changes (including recent jetty)
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      • zas
        i prepared jiji to server as 14.04 prod server, but first we need to have cookbooks running on a VM. Since you already installed indexer and search servers, could you write up steps somewhere as a basis ? Once i have the main steps i can proceed
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      • ruaok
        Freso: hmm, I agree they were clearly over the line.. Still, a warning of impending action might be nice, IMHO.
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      • ruaok
        Zas: do you want the cookbook to start from a jar or from source?
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      • zas
        imho from source
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      • ruaok
        OK.
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      • zas
        so updates to source can be deployed as well
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        try that as a starting point.
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      • ruaok
        once you have jar files you can pick up with the search-indexer repo for deployment.
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      • ruaok
        I'm running around london like an idiot today and will have only small bits of free time.
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      • ruaok
        but keep pinging me with questions and I'll help as I can.
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      • zas
        ok
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      • Freso
        ruaok: If I had caught it earlier, I would have warned first.
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      • ruaok
        Freso: fair nuff.
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      • Freso
        ruaok: But it had already gone on for too long by the time I switched back to this buffer.
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      • ruaok
        perhaps we should start a meme that if people start misbahving that we:
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      • ruaok
        1) Invoke your spirit
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      • ruaok
        2) warn offenders that you're going to come with a big stick
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      • Freso
        I'm not new to being a moderator, and this channel usually has far more well behaved people than a decently popular Minecraft server... :)
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      • daksh
        mildused, ping
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      • daksh
        Hey People :)
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      • CatQuest
        hi daksh
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      • daksh
        CatQuest, Hey, how you doing?
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      • CatQuest
        megatired. I still have 2 and a half pages to go and I only hav today and tomorrow to do them :‡
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      • CatQuest
        was there something you were wondering daksh? :)
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      • daksh
        CatQuest, Yeah :P I was wondering which org to choose this gci 2015
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      • daksh
        and also if I could at all contribute much this gci
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      • CatQuest
        well we of course want you to chose metabrainz.org ;) but I think you'll be able to contribute loads!
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      • daksh
        Umm yeah, but well I got to choose the one according to where I would have better chances of winning too :P
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      • daksh
        And umm, I am glad that you feel that :)
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      • chirlu`
        Note that a recommendation for MeB may not be completely without bias on this channel. ;-)
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      • CatQuest
        indeed :D
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      • daksh
        chirlu`, Hehe :P And you are?
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      • chirlu`
        No GCi participant. :)
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      • daksh
        chirlu`, Lol. A mentor?
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      • daksh
        chirlu`, Or just another member of the community :) ?