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      • FresoFenderson is now known as Freso
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      • ruaok
        gcilou: there is a wiki page where you can change it.
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      • ruaok
        see the link at the bottom
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      • gcilou
        ruaok, do I need an account on the Wiki page? I don't really see where to change it from there
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      • opatel99
        gcilou: Yes, you need an account. Then an edit tab should appear at the top of the article.
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      • gcilou
        opatel99, thanks!
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      • gcilou
        ruaok, which logos do you want to use there?
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      • zas
        ruaok: experiment in progress
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      • opatel99
        gcilou: I would assume, the counterpart. Which is logo_notext?
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      • zas
        i set dagon to allocate more workers to website, switched with ws, 50 for website 10 for ws, while it is the reverse on other servers
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      • ruaok
        zas: nagios busted you. :)
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      • zas
        the server alone is a bit overload
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      • ruaok
        k
      • 2016-01-14 01452, 2016

      • zas
        ed$
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      • gcilou
        Ok..
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      • zas
        but i will let it run like this a bit so we can gather some stats
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      • zas
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      • opatel99
        gcilou: You would have to upload 135x135 scaled vectors of the logos because most of the newest logos don't seem to be in the file list here: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Special:ListFiles
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      • gcilou
        Yes
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      • zas
        dagon's load is over 20 while it handles 5% of requests
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      • zas
        and 14% of network traffic
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      • zas
        for this to work we'll need a second server...
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      • zas
        or a more powerful
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      • ruaok
        give it to pingu?
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      • zas
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      • ruaok
        pingu is considerably more powerful.
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      • zas
        We could try, i continue this experiment a bit for numbers to stabilize
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      • gcilou
        I was thinking of doing the vertical logo, so the text would be there.. but if you want the no text, I can do that
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      • opatel99
        gcilou: It's not what I want. Your call.
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      • opatel99
        Vertical logo would use the space better, so that would be just as fine...
      • 2016-01-14 01426, 2016

      • gcilou
        :) I meant 'you' as in 'all y'all' but since I try to abstain from my southern slang, I said 'you'. lol. I agree that the vertical would look better :)
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      • zas
        ruaok: there is something else, check pingu est. connections on port 80
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      • zas
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      • zas
        it serves as much nginx requests as others, same traffic etc... but has much less est. connections
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      • ruaok
        da hell, pingu?
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      • zas
        i noticed this (it is unrelated to the current experiment)
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      • zas
        so ... why ? ;)
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      • zas
        it was rebooted recently, but it is in the same class as astro/asterix
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      • zas
        so i would expect it to have more or less the same behavior, and it has in almost all aspects, but this one
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      • ruaok
        also note that pingu has always been a little weird.
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      • ruaok
        not david bowie weird but...
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      • zas
        it can be an issue with the measurement, i'll double-check that later
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: coffee soon?
      • 2016-01-14 01408, 2016

      • alastairp
        I know, you just had one
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        Speshul.
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: I'm done with coffee for a while. bzzz bzzz bzzz.
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      • alastairp
        yeah, fair enough
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      • ruaok
        did you get all signed up, alastairp ?
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      • alastairp
        I dunno. she just told me to hang out at whatever table I wanted to
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      • ruaok
        besides, you dont drink coffee. :)
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      • alastairp
        I guess I’m on trial
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      • alastairp
        I’ll deal with it before I leave
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      • gcilou
        Alright, Freso, I changed it.
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: ok.
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      • gcilou
        ruaok too ^^
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      • ruaok
        zas: to return... pingu has always given us some problems. here and there.
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      • ruaok
        but now with new RAID and new RAM, I hope the problems are behind us.
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      • ruaok
        but there is a though in my mind about pingu not being fully ok. just a though.
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      • ruaok
        gcilou: hmmm. I wonder if it might look better without the text under the logo.
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      • ruaok
        seems a little doubled up.
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      • ruaok
        would you mind trying that gcilou ?
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      • gcilou
        Sure!
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      • zas
        The worse thing i encountered on a server was a buggy motherboard, years ago. It was changing one bit sometimes... I had corrupted files, and programs crashing without apparent reason, and changed every part ... until the only thing remaining was the motherboard....
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      • Leo_Verto
        ouch
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      • ruaok
        zas: if pingu doesn't behave now, that is our case.
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      • gcilou
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      • ruaok
        looks much better, thank you!!!
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      • gcilou
        :)
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      • zas
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      • gcilou
        zas, missing?
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      • ruaok
        the team page needs to go away and redirect to the metabrainz.org pages.
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      • ruaok
        and I think there are a few gci tasks there.
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      • ruaok
        let me scheme with Freso when he gets back from nanooks's journeys
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        much much better. :)
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      • gcilou
        awesome :)
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews, DR MBS-8451 again (chirlu), Team page (ruaok)
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      • ruaok
        I've added the team page to discuss on monday.
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      • ruaok
        namely, do we keep a historial page?
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      • ruaok
        or just show current members?
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      • ruaok
        either way it should move to meb.org
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      • zas
        ruaok: much better on pingu
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      • zas
        i will let it run a bit to gather stats
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      • ruaok
        oh yes. very good.
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      • zas
        much more responsive
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      • ruaok
        yay, pingu.
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      • zas
        it is interesting as website is using a lot of cpu
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      • zas
        check cpu usage on pingu
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      • ruaok
        wow.
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      • ruaok
        I think a lot of that is the template toolkit.
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      • ruaok
        moving to newer templates should help.
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      • ruaok
        hmm. we're getting a lot more emails from artists saying their data is incorrect.
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      • ruaok
        a sudden spike this week.
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      • ruaok
        odd.
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      • zas
        it means we get more artists actually aware we have data ;)
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      • drsaunde
        been a rough '16 so far: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/36854745
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      • ruaok
        yeah. :(
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      • ruaok
        not safe being 69 anymore
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      • zas
        better avoid it and go from 68 to 70 without stopping (and skip 27 too).
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      • ruaok
        lol
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      • zas
        ok i'll let pingu run until reo is around
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      • zas
        there are plenty of things to consider if we go for such setup. One is to check if we can actually optimize cpu usage, it looks too high to me, pingu is serving less queries and almost the same volume of data than before, but cpu usage is much higher
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      • zas
        Another is to find a way to have a failover ;)
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      • ruaok
        yep, I believe the templates are to blame.
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      • zas
        i wonder if disabling gzip has we did before would improve things on pingu now
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      • ruaok
        templates are not used for the WS
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      • zas
        templates or caching or both
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      • zas
        perhaps chirlu` could tell us more about that
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      • ruaok
        I wonder what the low hanging fruit on that are.
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      • mehtab
        CallerNo6: Can you please have a look at my gci task: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-inst…
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      • mehtab
        thanks!
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      • zas
        i'm try to disable gzip on pingu, it will increase traffic, but we'll see if it actually improve cpu thing
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      • ruaok
        given what we've seen elsewhere I doubt that will change anything.
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      • zas
        i think the same, but a test to confirm doesnt cost much
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      • ruaok
        good plan.
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      • alastairp
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      • ruaok
        perfect. thanks.
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      • ruaok
        the acceptable beer choices will be far more limited in the immediate barrio.
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      • alastairp
        hmm
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      • jesus2099
        hello there… the collection page used to be ordered by release date… but now it is not any more
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        bascially, NOT here.
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      • jesus2099
        What is the new sort order ?
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        also, it’s half way home for me :)
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      • zas
        ruaok: ok gzip disabled, let's wait few mins to see how much it doesn't change anything ;)
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      • ruaok
        and out of the way for me. on foot today. you on bike?
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      • ruaok
        zas: ok/
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      • alastairp
        I guess it’s as close as cat bar
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      • alastairp
        yeah, I am
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      • jesus2099
        or actually it seems still ordered by date up until a certain tab/page
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      • ruaok
        closer than cat bar.
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      • jesus2099
        at the end of http://beta.musicbrainz.org/collection/f0574792-6… page 12, I have the beginning of the undated releases, as usual
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      • ruaok
        err, ale and hop is closer.
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      • jesus2099
        but on next page http://beta.musicbrainz.org/collection/f0574792-6… I DO see some dates (strange ?)
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      • ruaok
        we could go there, since it is walking distance for me.
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      • alastairp
        yeah, I’ve not been there. I heard of it ages ago though
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      • alastairp
        sure
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      • ruaok
        its kinda expensive, but should do for one or two.
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      • jesus2099
        those should have been in the previous tabs
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: you mentioned something about the blog post related to in-site communication. did you have any specific plans about the content?
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      • ruaok takes a break walks to the hardware store.
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      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: it should contain all of your open questions.
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      • ruaok
        if there is a choice to do something or how to do something, ask it in the post.