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      • github
        [messybrainz-server] scrool opened pull request #14: Reference keys of config object with dict notation (master...fix-config) https://github.com/metabrainz/messybrainz-server/…
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        [messybrainz-server] scrool opened pull request #15: Fix docs: how to run server with `manage.py runserver` (master...fix-doc-server-py) https://github.com/metabrainz/messybrainz-server/…
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      • sheeree
        hello frands
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      • sheeree
        i am trying to join the summer of coding competition
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      • CallerNo6
        Hi sheeree. If you haven't already seen http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Development/Summer_of_… , you should start there. Of course, it will tell you to come back here and say "hi" :-)
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      • sheeree
        hi
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      • sheeree
        I want to create another *Brainz
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      • sheeree
        ArtBrainz
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      • sheeree
        Is there option of doing that?
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      • sheeree
        It will be all in one combination of bookbrainz and critiquebrainz. Database of art and art reviews
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      • CallerNo6
        Because of time zones, you may need to wait a while for a reply.
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      • sheeree
        CallerNo6: What do you think Mister
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      • CallerNo6
        I'm intrigued. But I'm not a dev and I'm not a GSoC mentor.
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      • sheeree
        could we still discuss
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      • sheeree
        I researchd intensive into this org and though you claim you are not dev, you have very interesting view on topics
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      • sheeree
        CallerNo6:
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      • sheeree
        I could have also tried the google code-in but the competition seemed to ez for me
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      • sheeree
        seems like the tasks were mostly trivial that the actual administrators could complete in mere minutes
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      • sheeree
        all except that boy stanislas . he did mention a few testing things he did. that was notable
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      • CallerNo6
        Hmm. Do I have anything relevant to say about a hypothetical ArtBrainz?
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      • sheeree
        is it a good idea
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      • CallerNo6
        I guess my first question is: is it needed? I mean, is there already an open data project related to art objects?
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      • CallerNo6
        A *good* one, that is.
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      • sheeree
        http://www.iblist.com/ has almost 70,000 works. though bookbrainz is a thing
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      • sheeree
        whatever others can do, we can do better
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      • sheeree
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      • CallerNo6 was expecting bugs bunny :-)
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      • CallerNo6
        hmm, how is iblist licensed?
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      • sheeree
        The information on the site is made available to the public free of charge in the form of the website."
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      • CallerNo6
        Heh, BB can certainly do better than that.
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      • CallerNo6
        Anyway, it's an interesting idea. You'd need to persuade a potential mentor, and you'd need to persuade ruaok to devote resources.
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      • Leftmost
        "The following is expressly prohibited": "Copy, reproduce, republish, upload, post, transmit, or distribute in any way material from this Web Site in any manner inconsistent with the purposes for which we offer it."
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      • CallerNo6
        Leftmost, anything they can prohibit, you can prohibit better.
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      • Leftmost
        sheeree, the biggest problem I see with it is defining scope. We already struggle with that at BB and MB, and "art" is an incredibly subjective term for a lot of people.
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      • Leftmost
        CallerNo6, we'll prohibit prohibitions.
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      • CallerNo6
        Good. Too much moderation is a bad thing.
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      • Leftmost
        We'll have to carefully moderate moderation.
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      • JesseW is delighted that bitmap finished the incomplete work that I (and ian & nikki) had done with regards to collections.
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      • CallerNo6
        sheeree, my second question would is: what's your passion?
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      • CallerNo6
        Are you interested in art history and/or library science?
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      • JesseW
        darwin: [off] er, that email sounds more like *wikimedia* drama (i.e. how the foundation dedicates its resources to further attracting and retaining people to work on wikipedia, primarily) rather than *mediawiki* drama (presumably, something related to the MediaWiki software, or updates to it, or resources dedicated to maintaining or changing it).
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      • Leftmost
        JesseW, [off] has to appear at the beginning of the line or it won't work.
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      • darwin
        jup
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      • JesseW
        oops.
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      • JesseW
        one could describe the pair as "one is the result of a long series of bad decisions which surprisingly haven't quite caught up to their authors -- and the other is a software project" :-P
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      • darwin
        ooof
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      • JesseW
        (yes, I know that's unnecessarily unkind -- but it was too good a quip to avoid)
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      • rszasz
        If there are three artists in a session, should all three be in the release artist(s) field, or should it be Various?
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      • rszasz
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      • reosarevok
        What's the credit on the release itself? Generally that looks fine to me
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      • rszasz
        Thats how it was on the discography, I dont know where the physical disk is now, Im going through my library looking for bad info
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      • reosarevok
        Also that's probably a better question for #musicbrainz :)
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      • rszasz
        derp
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      • rszasz
        I was on musicbrains for a moment.. silly web client
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      • rszasz
        switching over now
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      • rszasz
        do you know if there is any data transfer for bookbrainz to calibre?
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      • reosarevok
        stanislas: ^
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      • reosarevok
        There's a plugin stanislas made, not sure if that's what you want not where it is but I'm sure he'll be around later and can tell you more :)
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      • stanislas
        rszasz: Yeah. I've made a plugin to import books from bookbrainz. It allows to search for title or bookbrainz id. See https://github.com/bookbrainz/CaliBBre
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      • stanislas
        rszasz: That's what you were looking for ?
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      • stanislas
        The European Library seems like the best choice. Their data is not licensed at all and it has 95 million books
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      • stanislas
        LordSputnik: ^
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      • stanislas
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      • stanislas
        And it includes databases of German National Library (Deutsche National Bibliothek), http://www.theeuropeanlibrary.org/tel4/discover/c…
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      • stanislas
        and others
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      • chirlu`
        s/National Bibliothek/Nationalbibliothek/
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      • chirlu` can’t stand certain spelling mistakes. :)
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      • stanislas
        I am sorry chirlu`, that's how their logo looks
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      • chirlu`
        Yeah; luckily, they normally spell it correctly.
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      • Freso
        sheeree: Hello. I think a database combining both the data and reviews of what the data is describing is not something that would be welcomed much. ArtBrainz coupled with CritiqueBrainz to have the art critiques on CB could work though. I'm mostly concerned that it's too large of a project for one GSoC. BookBrainz has ~2 developers and is still in its early stages 2+ years on.
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      • Freso
        sheeree: Also, if you were eligible to participate in GCI (even if you chose not to), you're unlikely to be eligible for GSoC. I guess it is theoretically possible, but it's a very narrow window you'll have to fit into.
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      • Freso
        sheeree: BB also has a number of (potential) contributors already from the MB community, which means that there's at least a basis for editing. Do you know that you can get enough people to "bootstrap" the community of a potential ArtBrainz site?
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      • Freso
        Speaking of BB (and STYLE and Discourse in #musicbrainz), LordSputnik Leftmost Leo_Verto, would you want to move BB style discussion to Discourse as well, or do you want to keep your mailing list thing?
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      • umeshksingla
        Freso: I was thinking to proceed with BookBrainz, looks like a new project and not many contributors as in ab, cb, mb, lb
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      • umeshksingla
        even the project proposed for 2016 will help in developing bb to a large extent
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews, DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews; DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564
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      • LordSputnik
        Freso: we'd like to move to Discourse please :) Just a single room/subforum called "BookBrainz" would be good
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      • ruaok
        stanislas: wow that dataset is cc0.
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      • ruaok
        LordSputnik: import *that*. :)
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      • Freso
        LordSputnik: Also, when are you going to do Book Art Archive? :D
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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: jenkins down?
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      • alastairp
        zas: ^
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      • zas
        hobbes is down ... not good
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      • alastairp
        well, I don't need it any more, but I think it's still an issue ;)
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      • Freso
        zas: Once you've done the fire killing: should I have access to the discourse system to install/manage plugins etc.? Or should I just ping you about such matters?
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      • Freso
        gcilou: Ping?
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      • ruaok
        I've asked DWNI to look at Hobbes.
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      • adhawkins
        Hi guys. Trying to upgrade my local server as per the latest blog post, and getting this: http://paste.debian.net/402751/
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      • adhawkins
        Any suggestions?
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      • adhawkins
        I've run 'cpanm --installdeps --notest .' and it didn't install anything new.
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      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: please weigh in on the bb-style discussion when you get time :)
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      • adhawkins
        Looks like I haven't updated since the 2015-05-18 schema change.
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      • adhawkins
        Going back through the releases to see if I can find out which was the last one that 'worked' for me.
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      • adhawkins
        2015-05-27 works, 2015-08-10 doesn't.
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      • adhawkins
        Will go back through the blog to see if anyone else had difficulties around then.
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      • adhawkins
        Sorry, 07-27 works, 08-10 doesn't.
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      • adhawkins
        Got it. Serves me right for trying to jump so many versions.
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      • adhawkins
        Seems to need 'node' now? Working my way through more blog entries...
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      • adhawkins
        Is node.js a requirement now?