gcilou: are you already running another virtual machine?
2016-02-24 05524, 2016
zas
ruaok: i'm pretty sure we'll have tons of post upgrade fixes to do with sakura
2016-02-24 05525, 2016
gcilou
I don't think so..Is there a way to know that?
2016-02-24 05537, 2016
alastairp
open virtualbox
2016-02-24 05538, 2016
Gentlecat
open virtualbox ui
2016-02-24 05557, 2016
ruaok
zas: ok, I'm headed home. I can help in a few minutes.
2016-02-24 05558, 2016
ruaok
brb
2016-02-24 05552, 2016
gcilou
'open virtualbox' keeps saying that the file 'virtualbox' doesn't exist
2016-02-24 05513, 2016
reosarevok
I think they mean literally open the virtualbox program
2016-02-24 05520, 2016
gcilou
lol ok
2016-02-24 05500, 2016
gcilou
aha I see.
2016-02-24 05502, 2016
bitmap
in that case 'open /Applications/VirtualBox.app' would actually work :P
2016-02-24 05507, 2016
gcilou feels stupid :)
2016-02-24 05517, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: I don't disagree, but 1) there was no agreement for how to do the levels in the meeting, 2) I didn't know anyone had actually started using them (since there hadn't been an agreement on the levels) and alastairp seemed to want to use it now, 3) you had a rather passive-aggressive way of publically berating me for actually doing something.
2016-02-24 05548, 2016
chirlu`
“Actually doing something” that affects others (or may affect others) without giving a chance to feedback is rarely a good plan.
2016-02-24 05547, 2016
chirlu`
2) would also have been resolved by asking (or looking yourself).
2016-02-24 05532, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: And I wouldn't have had an issue reverting my change in the first place if you'd say "Oi mate, I had already begun using this. Can you please rename house instead of adding a new category/level?"
2016-02-24 05548, 2016
Freso
(Which, btw, I can't.)
2016-02-24 05503, 2016
chirlu`
(Why not?)
2016-02-24 05506, 2016
Freso
(There's no way to rename the option.)
2016-02-24 05508, 2016
Freso
*options
2016-02-24 05534, 2016
Freso
I can delete options and add new ones and rearrange existing ones, but not rename existing ones.
Apparently requires changing in the database directly …
2016-02-24 05515, 2016
chirlu`
JIRA.
2016-02-24 05539, 2016
bitmap
huh. well at least they tell you how...
2016-02-24 05514, 2016
JesseW
http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/AB-57?page=… -- is this about this change: "Alastair Porter changed the Size Estimate to 'Bikeshed / Birdhouse' on AB-57 " (Let me know if you want me to stop guessing)
2016-02-24 05518, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: I'll be happy to go either path that you want. I would suggest redoing the 8 tickets (and only having three size levels (small (pebble?), medium (rock?), large (mountain?)).
2016-02-24 05526, 2016
Freso
JesseW: Yep.
2016-02-24 05542, 2016
Freso
Well, not that one exactly. But it is about Size Est.
2016-02-24 05500, 2016
chirlu`
Three may not be enough. I think five is fine, actually.
2016-02-24 05524, 2016
JesseW
ok, glad to be now somewhat less confused
2016-02-24 05528, 2016
Freso
And it seemed like that one's size est. gracefully "degraded" to "House" when I deleted the "Birdhouse" option.
2016-02-24 05530, 2016
JesseW has quit
2016-02-24 05531, 2016
Freso
*seems
2016-02-24 05543, 2016
Freso
So maybe I didn't break things as much as chirlu` would let me believe.
2016-02-24 05513, 2016
chirlu`
I had changed it to House already. :-)
2016-02-24 05519, 2016
Freso
Ah, no, chirlu` manually went and changed that.
2016-02-24 05549, 2016
chirlu`
Rationale for five: One for really easy tasks and one for huge projects (think NES) at the other end.
2016-02-24 05505, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: So, do you want to stick to house/../planet?
2016-02-24 05517, 2016
chirlu`
Then three (or maybe two?) steps for “normal” things.
2016-02-24 05523, 2016
bitmap
stone/rock are pretty synonymous to me but otherwise the rock metaphors sound fine
2016-02-24 05542, 2016
chirlu`
Well, I think that House starts too large.
2016-02-24 05543, 2016
Gentlecat
what was the problem with upgrading jira?
2016-02-24 05530, 2016
chirlu`
I mean, it fits with the other options, but when I hear House, I don’t think of an easy ten-minute task. :)
when I hear rock I think of something I pick up off the ground, heh
2016-02-24 05525, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: Anyway, if you don't want to re-do the ones already size est.'d, my suggestion is that we stick with house/…/planet since I don't think we'll want to go the SQL correction route.
