yeah not sure where that falls in the priorities of the project. I'm hoping to apply for the gsoc, or at the very least do cool stuff with some of the metabrainz resources.
2016-03-07 06701, 2016
alastairp
Gentlecat: yes, it's "just a list", but I want filtering, and paging too
2016-03-07 06711, 2016
alastairp
in fact, the "just a list" is done
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ruaok
zas: wasn't me.
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reosarevok
pk_: already here ;)
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alastairp
Gentlecat: hmm. I see your thing still hasn't finished
2016-03-07 06720, 2016
alastairp
I think this is the same bug that I remember seeing.
2016-03-07 06732, 2016
alastairp
there's sometimes an issue with the multithreading, and it just stops
2016-03-07 06747, 2016
alastairp
Gentlecat: I killed a few processes and it seems to have finished the first job, and now it's looking at another
2016-03-07 06741, 2016
Gentlecat
issue in gaia?
2016-03-07 06745, 2016
alastairp
yeah
2016-03-07 06749, 2016
Gentlecat
:(
2016-03-07 06701, 2016
alastairp
the bit which does multiprocessing
2016-03-07 06754, 2016
alastairp
hey. your mood test is pretty good!
2016-03-07 06744, 2016
alastairp
I would love to see results of running the classifier on your 30k ground truth
this was really slow, so what I ended up doing was creating a temporary table containing the mbids I wanted to compare against, and doing a join on to that table
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alastairp
but that's a little hacky. so I think we need a better way of doing it
2016-03-07 06757, 2016
Gentlecat
btw, after you merge and deploy schema changes and all this stuff, don't forget about generated models
2016-03-07 06708, 2016
Gentlecat
the actual files, I mean
2016-03-07 06722, 2016
alastairp
what do you mean?
2016-03-07 06725, 2016
alastairp
the .history files?
2016-03-07 06729, 2016
Gentlecat
yep
2016-03-07 06739, 2016
alastairp
are they stored in the checked out directory?
2016-03-07 06747, 2016
alastairp
so I'll have to copy them from my ~ to ~acousticbrainz?
2016-03-07 06749, 2016
alastairp
ok
2016-03-07 06706, 2016
Gentlecat
to one that is specified in the config file
2016-03-07 06710, 2016
alastairp
ah, ok
2016-03-07 06711, 2016
alastairp
cool
2016-03-07 06723, 2016
Gentlecat
you can actually point them to the same place
2016-03-07 06733, 2016
alastairp
there's also no way of comparing computed hl files to the ground truth of a dataset
I think ruaok mentioned it a bit earlier today - listenbrainz has been in the background for us for a few months. with more people interested in it we will try and put more time towards working on the next plans
2016-03-07 06733, 2016
alastairp
you can see that there are already a number of open pull requests from last year
2016-03-07 06741, 2016
alastairp
and the tickets remaining on Jira
2016-03-07 06714, 2016
alastairp
I see your lastfm account is very new :)
2016-03-07 06731, 2016
alastairp
did you know about last.fm before you looked at listenbrainz? it has had a very long history
2016-03-07 06753, 2016
petepy
i'm a little confused how this chat works
2016-03-07 06707, 2016
alastairp
one of our goals is to replicate the core song recording functionality (called scrobbling in last.fm, 'listening' in LB)
2016-03-07 06755, 2016
armalcolite
yeah. knew it. and dont use it muh
2016-03-07 06707, 2016
armalcolite
*much.
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alastairp
so this is what most of the tickets on jira are about, but also the projects that we have proposed for SoC are part of the next things we want to work on to make it feature compatible with the main last.fm functionality
2016-03-07 06732, 2016
petepy
last.fm no, not irc either. this chat is really messing with my head
2016-03-07 06709, 2016
alastairp
so one thing that you could do is look at last.fm some more, and see how our proposed listenbrainz features fit in with replicating this functionality
2016-03-07 06731, 2016
armalcolite
can u elaborate "core recording functionality" ?
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alastairp
I mean scrobbling
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armalcolite
submitting the current playing song?
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alastairp
we don't like to use the word scrobble when talking about listenbrainz, because this is a term specifically for last.fm
2016-03-07 06726, 2016
alastairp
yes, that
2016-03-07 06741, 2016
armalcolite
yeah i read wiki for scrobbling
2016-03-07 06742, 2016
alastairp
unfortuately there is no simple word to mean that (except for scrobble)...
2016-03-07 06734, 2016
armalcolite
will try to get a clear idea of how last.fm works
2016-03-07 06707, 2016
alastairp
last.fm also has a lot of other functionality (friends, following, likes, tagging, etc)
2016-03-07 06714, 2016
alastairp
which we are not interested in replicating
2016-03-07 06752, 2016
petepy
yeah i sort of see that as an important part of the whole scrobbing thing, just like in spotify/facebook.
2016-03-07 06701, 2016
Gentlecat
the focus is probably on presenting listens, analyzing them
2016-03-07 06724, 2016
alastairp
one of the main focuses of metabrainz is to provide high quality data to anyone who wants to use it
2016-03-07 06729, 2016
armalcolite
ok. we are concerned about data.
2016-03-07 06749, 2016
alastairp
so there is definitely value in using this type of data in the same way as last.fm does
2016-03-07 06705, 2016
alastairp
but that's not a core requirement for metabrainz. we will let someone else do it
2016-03-07 06704, 2016
petepy
hypothetically would a media player with built in listening to metabrainz be useful?
2016-03-07 06722, 2016
petepy
or just a plugin for existing media players or web players'
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alastairp
there are already a small handful of plugins
2016-03-07 06742, 2016
alastairp
not for many players though
2016-03-07 06718, 2016
alastairp
you can see that one of our proposed projects is to make an api which is compatible with last.fm's api so that existing players can submit data directly
2016-03-07 06725, 2016
alastairp
in fact, this is what libre.fm also does
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armalcolite
i had the same project in mind. :)
2016-03-07 06700, 2016
armalcolite
like a proxy.
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alastairp
exactly
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armalcolite
users submit to use, we submit to lastfm.
2016-03-07 06738, 2016
alastairp
perhaps. we're not sure if we should submit to last.fm as well
armalcolite: no need to improve the last.fm api; it's only there for compatibility. listenbrainz has its own native api where improvements can be made
2016-03-07 06709, 2016
darwin
armalcolite: I've imagined a pass through proxy that sniffs for submissions *to last.fm* and proxies them
2016-03-07 06727, 2016
darwin
armalcolite: because otherwise, spotify scrobbles, hypem scrobbles, etc. are lost?
2016-03-07 06738, 2016
armalcolite
kepstin: ok.
2016-03-07 06741, 2016
kepstin
darwin: the traditional way to redirect scrobbles to an alternate service for apps that don't support it natively is to edit the hosts file to redirect the audioscrobbler submission server to a different ip
