but that everything will be arranged and managed from the mothership.
2016-03-21 08149, 2016
ruaok
including paying taxes. which the mothership doesn't do, so thats pretty cool.
2016-03-21 08102, 2016
chrisskye
And, today I confirmed with an accountant that there should be no headaches with the Spanish tax authorities at all.
2016-03-21 08109, 2016
ruaok
we also got the keys to the office, which is also fun, but rather useless.
2016-03-21 08114, 2016
ruaok
chrisskye: \ø/
2016-03-21 08151, 2016
ruaok
we first need a taxpayer id number (CIF). then we can give that to the bank. the bank will take eons to decide if they will allow us to open a bank account.
2016-03-21 08151, 2016
chrisskye
...unless we hire Spanish employees, in which case we will have to do paperwork!
2016-03-21 08131, 2016
ruaok
once we have the bank account, we can get power, water, internet for the office. until then, we have a useless office space.
2016-03-21 08100, 2016
ruaok
I did invite a few people over for beers in candlelight. I thought there was a chance it might backfire, but in the end a pile of us sat i the dark til near midnight.
2016-03-21 08108, 2016
ruaok
reosarevok: you're a contractor.
2016-03-21 08112, 2016
reosarevok
Ok :)
2016-03-21 08118, 2016
chrisskye
bank may or may not, that doc from the notary looks promising.
2016-03-21 08123, 2016
reosarevok
Just making sure
2016-03-21 08132, 2016
ruaok
I had to double check myself too.
2016-03-21 08152, 2016
ruaok
there were other things I did last week too, conference calls, plan my trip to london, etc.
2016-03-21 08119, 2016
ruaok
I also responded to a lawyer on discourse and it seems we have a new ally now. I'm going to skype with him tomorrrow.
2016-03-21 08142, 2016
ruaok
oh and I did the schema change announcement too.
2016-03-21 08156, 2016
ruaok
so, productive week, but didn't seem all that productive with the meetings and all.
2016-03-21 08101, 2016
ruaok
ok, chrisskye next!
2016-03-21 08127, 2016
chrisskye
I did some of those same things as ruaok.
2016-03-21 08101, 2016
chrisskye
Other than that it is the usual back and forth emails with commercial users.
2016-03-21 08111, 2016
chrisskye
I think I’m getting better at managing them.
2016-03-21 08117, 2016
ruaok
(monkey on the left, gentlecat center)
2016-03-21 08136, 2016
chrisskye
One of the big items of discussion was privacy and NDAs.
2016-03-21 08148, 2016
ruaok
(with a failed picture that didn't send, meh IRCcloud)
2016-03-21 08134, 2016
chrisskye
We got asked to sign one...and I seem to have politely explained that we prefer to be open and honest from our end, and trustworthy.
I will look at the privacy policy in my spare time. We need to separate legal, practical and community issues. I believe in the community ethics and then the practical, and avoid legal to whatever extent we can while not being negligent.
2016-03-21 08152, 2016
zas
Excellent I love candlelights
2016-03-21 08104, 2016
ruaok
let's say they tell us secret X. then completely independently someone in our community invents X as well and sends up a PR. we accept it and ship it.
2016-03-21 08112, 2016
chrisskye
BMAT has invited us to lunch.
2016-03-21 08113, 2016
ruaok
now what?
2016-03-21 08137, 2016
ruaok
it looks like we violated the NDA.
2016-03-21 08143, 2016
ruaok now shuts up
2016-03-21 08135, 2016
chrisskye
But with a well worded email they dropped the issue and we’ll have a nice talk about supporting MetaBrainz.
2016-03-21 08138, 2016
chrisskye
fin
2016-03-21 08144, 2016
ruaok
who is next?
2016-03-21 08114, 2016
chrisskye
I don’t know who is here...
2016-03-21 08119, 2016
chrisskye
help me out...
2016-03-21 08121, 2016
zas
Me
2016-03-21 08129, 2016
chrisskye
go
2016-03-21 08155, 2016
zas
Usual server stuff, upgrades and supervision
2016-03-21 08116, 2016
zas
And the transition to Gmail
2016-03-21 08158, 2016
zas
I had to fix many little things but it went smoother I initially it would
Yep, been getting the emails nicely at the work account
2016-03-21 08129, 2016
ruaok
that was surprisingly smooth!
2016-03-21 08145, 2016
reosarevok
Pretty nice not to have to fish them from among everything else anymore :)
2016-03-21 08152, 2016
zas
I generated SSL certificates for acousticbrainz and enable https
2016-03-21 08131, 2016
zas
I failed badly on sentry. MB I ll try again tomorrow
2016-03-21 08109, 2016
zas
Plus few things on Picard and murdos userscripts
2016-03-21 08134, 2016
zas
I think that's all for this week
2016-03-21 08153, 2016
zas
reosarevok ?
2016-03-21 08159, 2016
reosarevok
sure
2016-03-21 08123, 2016
reosarevok
I opened another style discussion on discourse (no poll this time, just talk, so it's been slower, but still some useful feedback)
2016-03-21 08134, 2016
reosarevok
Also just sent three tiny PRs today
2016-03-21 08158, 2016
reosarevok
Other than that, mostly support
2016-03-21 08154, 2016
reosarevok
And tons of classical cleanup
2016-03-21 08112, 2016
reosarevok
Semi-relatedly, it seems like I'm going to be doing BBC stuff at least for a few more months, but it'll be only one or two days a week which shouldn't interfere much with anything :) Right now it's kinda pointless from a MB POV but I'm hoping for more relevant bits of work in the future too
2016-03-21 08147, 2016
reosarevok
Once the first style thread is done (pretty soon) I'll open one of the more thorny issues and see how that goes
2016-03-21 08151, 2016
reosarevok
And that's about it. bitmap?
2016-03-21 08156, 2016
bitmap
hi.
2016-03-21 08115, 2016
bitmap
I mostly worked on the alternative tracklists UI last week. not much to show yet
2016-03-21 08153, 2016
bitmap
I also cleaned up the public schema on totoro and added data dumping to mbspotify
2016-03-21 08113, 2016
ruaok
\ø/
2016-03-21 08148, 2016
bitmap
on wed. I met with a couple guys from fanriff.com to talk abuot what they're doing/using MB for and how we might work together, they were pretty cool
2016-03-21 08123, 2016
ruaok
do they have funds yet? :)
2016-03-21 08143, 2016
bitmap
they talked about possibly doing some MBS work and adding mbspotify voting or whatever to their site
2016-03-21 08106, 2016
bitmap
I don't think so. :)
2016-03-21 08110, 2016
CatCat has quit
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ruaok
yeah, sounds like a labour of love
2016-03-21 08151, 2016
bitmap
and they said they'll invite me to some meetups to talk about MB, which is cool
mostly been working on MBS-8838, figuring out where things are and updating them
2016-03-21 08134, 2016
Gentlecat
reviewed some GSoC proposals
2016-03-21 08159, 2016
Gentlecat
fin
2016-03-21 08108, 2016
Gentlecat
chirlu: ?
2016-03-21 08153, 2016
Gentlecat
alastairp: ?
2016-03-21 08117, 2016
ruaok
LordSputnik, Leftmost, Leo_Verto ?
2016-03-21 08146, 2016
Gentlecat
🙀
2016-03-21 08116, 2016
ruaok
ok, anyone else we forgot?
2016-03-21 08142, 2016
CJ_
ruaok, Myself. But you were there for the pre-meeting discussion.
2016-03-21 08155, 2016
ruaok
remind us, CJ_
2016-03-21 08116, 2016
CJ_
Made a bit more progress on SOLR thanks to Mineo. Still working on it, though.
2016-03-21 08131, 2016
CJ_
Trying to decide the best way to move forward.
2016-03-21 08129, 2016
ruaok
fin?
2016-03-21 08118, 2016
ruaok
ok, onward then.
2016-03-21 08128, 2016
ruaok
only one agenda ite
2016-03-21 08138, 2016
ruaok
MBS--8864, zas!
2016-03-21 08148, 2016
zas
Well
2016-03-21 08112, 2016
zas
We just need to decide what to do
2016-03-21 08133, 2016
zas
Basically we are losing mbids
2016-03-21 08153, 2016
reosarevok
I see no problem with us waiting at least the same as we would with any other recently-emptied entity
2016-03-21 08157, 2016
bitmap
that's tricky because the deletion is performed by a trigger on the track table
2016-03-21 08103, 2016
reosarevok
(which is 24 or 48 h, right?)
2016-03-21 08159, 2016
bitmap
if there's a delay then the trigger won't run again
2016-03-21 08126, 2016
reosarevok
Hmm
2016-03-21 08138, 2016
bitmap
we should probably remove the trigger and do this in a daily cleanup script, I guess
2016-03-21 08142, 2016
reosarevok
Are the recordings that do *not* get removed (because they have a rel or whatever) marked in any way?
2016-03-21 08154, 2016
reosarevok
(they seem like decent candidates for a report)
2016-03-21 08100, 2016
ruaok
how often are we losing MBIDs because of this. more like an edge case, yes?
2016-03-21 08103, 2016
bitmap
sure, we can determine if they're deletable or have an 'Add recording' edit
2016-03-21 08158, 2016
bitmap
not sure about a report though, it might be really slow across the whole recording table
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ruaok
I like the move from trigger to daily cleanup.
2016-03-21 08126, 2016
ruaok
that seems the most sensible.
2016-03-21 08134, 2016
reosarevok
It's a fairly edge-casey thing
2016-03-21 08138, 2016
bitmap
I guess that's the problem with a cleanup script too. we'll just have to see how it performs
2016-03-21 08144, 2016
zas
I think too
2016-03-21 08146, 2016
reosarevok
But if there's a cleanish solution, that'd be good
2016-03-21 08152, 2016
reosarevok
If not, we'd live
2016-03-21 08113, 2016
ruaok
and we somehow find a way to not have to traverse the whole table
2016-03-21 08114, 2016
ruaok
?
2016-03-21 08127, 2016
ruaok
hmm. ok, we're petering out.
2016-03-21 08138, 2016
ruaok
bitmap: think about a bit more and let's revisit next week.
2016-03-21 08149, 2016
ruaok
anything else for this week or shall we close early for a change?
2016-03-21 08150, 2016
bitmap
ok
2016-03-21 08126, 2016
ruaok
right, I'm not hearing much else happening. onward.
2016-03-21 08128, 2016
reosarevok
Just one small request
2016-03-21 08128, 2016
ruaok
thanks everyone!
2016-03-21 08134, 2016
reosarevok
Outside the meeting works :p
2016-03-21 08134, 2016
ruaok
ya?
2016-03-21 08141, 2016
ruaok
ok
2016-03-21 08148, 2016
ruaok
</BANG>
2016-03-21 08119, 2016
reosarevok
But basically, I'd love to see more tickets tagged as House that I can look into. I imagine there's not only 3 or 4, and that there must be quite a bit of low hanging fruit around
2016-03-21 08133, 2016
reosarevok
So if anyone is bored at some point, they could go look for easy stuff :p
2016-03-21 08114, 2016
reosarevok is pretty bad at guessing what's easy despite having been around for long enough that he should know better :/
2016-03-21 08112, 2016
ruaok
fair nuff. I'm sure bitmap and chirlu can help there.
2016-03-21 08116, 2016
bitmap
sure. will try to mark some more this week
2016-03-21 08125, 2016
reosarevok
Oh. bitmap: how does pagination work exactly? I am wondering about making work parts collapsible
2016-03-21 08100, 2016
bitmap
that's a broad question :)
2016-03-21 08103, 2016
ruaok
oh and bitmap: i appreciate you doing some outreach in Chi-town with the fanriff folk.
2016-03-21 08114, 2016
reosarevok
I guess it's not possible to do something like "load 50/100/whatever parent works", it'd have to be "load X works and then show the parent ones"
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bitmap
ruaok: it's nice to have some human contact with people who know about MB once in a while
2016-03-21 08155, 2016
ruaok
I bet. :)
2016-03-21 08119, 2016
ruaok
if you want more of that, guestroom and office in BCN makes for a potent combo. esp when the polar vortex comes calling.
2016-03-21 08104, 2016
bitmap
yeah. I got dangerously close to buying a ticket recently
