#metabrainz

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      • alastairp
        woo
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      • ruaok
        waa
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      • ruaok
        I have an irrational love of those sites.
      • geeky and musical all at the same time.
      • just like my Run GCC sticker on my old laptop.
      • alastairp
        it tooks us almost an entire 24h to get 1.5m lowlevel files on to our compute cluster
      • but once they were there, running highlevel for them took only an hour or so
      • ruaok
        oh silly computing.
      • alastairp
        next time I do it, I'll just tar the files, not targz them
      • ruaok
        scp or nc?
      • alastairp
        it saved 50% size, but took ages to just compress/uncompress
      • ruaok
        scp is painfully slow. nc is super fast.
      • alastairp
        I used scp, but I think the transfer was actually the faster bit of it
      • ruaok
        and you can do compression in line with nc.
      • alastairp
        granted, those 24h include 8h sleeping too
      • and fighting with the network at the uni
      • ruaok
        do nc and bzip in the same go and that will likely yield the fastest setup
      • ah, no help there
      • alastairp
        so I think I can do it better the next time
      • however, I'm still not sure it was faster than running 12 threads on spike
      • chrisskye
        Omnifone says they don’t use our databases...
      • comments?
      • ruaok: tell me how we know?
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      • ruaok
        I expected that response.
      • Phil Sant, one their founders (?), explained in detail on how they use our DB at the last Future Music Forum in Barcelona.
      • adesh
        Gentlecat: In the views, at various places, the views deals with the the existing model as a class(for ex: review's class). and then the instance(s) of this class is played around with. for this reason, i feel we should keep the classes even after removing ORM. your views on this?
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      • armalcolite
        anyone knows a good markdown to PDF converter which also supports html. Have been looking for a good one since a long time.
      • i m using this, http://www.markdowntopdf.com/, but it does not format tables, and quoted content as they should be
      • adesh
        Gentlecat: and it would be easier to keep them as classes and won't even affect the performance
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      • although, ofcourse, ORM won't be used anywhere
      • Gentlecat
        why do we need them?
      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: should we merge master into direct-db? There are quite a few improvements I'm missing in the RE
      • adesh
        it would help us handling the instance as a whole or a list of them. moreover at the views, the present implementation is according to class. and it is hence easier to retrieve and pass around any of the instances of the classes by functions.
      • okay lemme give u a concrete example
      • in Review model we have a method called get_popular() which returns list of popular reviews
      • this method is used by views
      • specifically index view
      • and itereated to get all the reviews
      • iterated*
      • if we keep it as classes, we won't have to fiddle around with these.
      • and it would work
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      • github
        [listenbrainz-server] tallicamike opened pull request #75: Fix [LB-84] | Listenstore (master...fix-api-does-not-validate-count) https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...
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      • adesh
        alternative would be get_popular() returning a strings of text (each of which would be a review)
      • which would cause the view's implementation to change too.
      • basically, keeping classes would reduce the changes at view's ends and would somewhat reduce the possible bugs since the implementation changes less
      • umm did you get it?
      • Gentlecat: this was just an example, there would be more of such instances
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      • Mike_Aiir
        Hey, just wondering is there a way to trigger the rebuilding of search indexes? in the docs it mentions calling bin/reindex but this is for the VM version
      • ruaok
        hey. other than that script, we have nothing.
      • and that script is trivial -- just the invocation of the builder and nuking files.
      • copying that should be simple.
      • LordSputnik
        Leftmost: yeah, I'm going to merge master into d-d, we'll have to do the merge anyway at some point and doing most of it now saves time fixing other things
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      • Mike_Aiir
        @ruaok where would I find a copy of that file though, can't seem to find it in the musicbrainz-server
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      • ruaok
      • alas, useless.
      • here:
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      • Mike_Aiir
        dammit, i was close, i was looking through the chef-cookbooks project
      • CatQuest is curious about the mail that chrisskye sent. i'd love to see it (if it's allowed)
      • ruaok
        CatQuest: if she feels like sharing... I'm ok with it. :)
      • CatQuest
        :D
      • chrisskye
        sure...how shall I share?
      • CatQuest
        and [off]ed link to a paste or google dock or what's convenient to you?
      • chrisskye
        I don’t think it needs to be off...ruaok ?
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      • ruaok
        Sadly no. Probably a he said she said sort of situation... Let me think...
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, the uni uses it at least, right? They get it for free because they're a public institution, but if they're doing commercial stuff now... Meh
      • ruaok
        Let me see if I can find Phil's email. Let's ask him.
      • chrisskye
        note, the person I was corresponding with is the PR person filling in while the other is on maternity leave...and the people she copied appear to be more on the business than the engineering side. She got back to me quickly. I have asked that she consult with the engineering team and get back to me
      • ruaok
        OK, let me know how that turns out. If that is negative too, we'll talk to Phil.
      • chrisskye
        should be psant@omnifone (based on format of the others) Shall I forward it?
      • ...going to try forwarding my second reply
      • armalcolite
        i have uploaded the proposal but i am unable to view it. Can some mentor verify if its uploaded correctly or not?
      • On clicking view, the page redirects to a blank page.
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      • hellska
        Hey, a GSoC question in addition to what I proposed yesterday: new AcousticBrainz client feature or a web interface on AcousticBrainz website that enable community users to import open access datasets used in research with a set of minimum metadata and linked(using the track title or other info) to the original tracks MBID. This last option will improve the datasets quality adding missing metadata and other useful information.
      • adesh
        Gentlecat: Whenever you are free, do tell me what do you think about keeping the classes.
      • Leftmost
        LordSputnik, probably.
      • alastairp
        Freso: final deadline is 25th ? I thought proposals could be changed after that
      • ruaok
        they can be. but final deadline for new submissions is the 25th
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      • alastairp
        It's just that Fresos post on discourse talks about final PDFs, and I thought that PDFs were unchanhable
      • ruaok has a hard time parsing that last bit
      • Let me get back to the office and I'll try and reread everything
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      • ruaok
        nice, 7 proposals now.
      • Gentlecat
        hellska: you should post idea on the forums https://community.metabrainz.org/c/metabrainz/g...
      • and submit it on GSoC website
      • ruaok
        alastairp: now you have me confused too. there is a final PDF which we can see until the deadline.
      • and draft proposals.
      • alastairp
        Everything was clear to me until I read discourse
      • Gentlecat
        it's probably just a formality. nobody stops us from adjusting the plan afterwards, right?
      • hellska
        Gentlecat: yes I’m formatting the final document now!
      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: likely. still odd though.
      • yeah, now I am fully confused as well. :)
      • and I've read the faq. may need to read the mailing list archie
      • +v
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      • Gentlecat
        I don't see what the problem is
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      • mootwo
        hi guys... can someone confirm if its safe to call release_packaging.id = 7 "vinyl"?
      • ruaok
        you should look in the release_packaging_type (IIRC) table.
      • mootwo
        ruaok: i don't have that table... only release_packaging
      • wait i think i got it... medium_format
      • ruaok
        what was the release_packaging.name say for id = 7?
      • mootwo
        "none"
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      • ruaok
        then I would not say that it is safe to call it vinly.
      • vinyl.
      • FEH>
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      • NOT SAFE.
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      • mootwo
        ruaok: yeah ill just use the medium_format table instead of release_packaging. i think it will work for my needs
      • lol thanks for the helrp as usual
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      • kartikgupta0909
        alastairp: a small clarification if you have time.
      • about your comment on my proposal regarding authentication API