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Freso
ruaok: Around?
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ruaok
Not really, but try me.
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9:06 AM
Freso
Oh, sent a request via the blog now.
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9:06 AM
Freso
It's not a long post.
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9:12 AM
Freso
ruaok: I would love to be able to publish it in 49 minutes (10 AM UTC) or at latest before noon UTC, but I'm not going to publish it without your consent, so if you need more time, so be it. :)
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Freso
(I meant to get it done earlier... but then I decided to sleep a bit longer...)
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ruaok
I see another emergency on my part. Will read in the tube.
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Freso
đź‘Ť
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9:22 AM
ruaok
Ah, I see. A good emergency.
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ruaok
Overall good, but I think there ought to be more flowery guff. Praising ourselves, the echonest. Bold leadership.
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ruaok
Trying new things, keeping things fresh. Being edgy.
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Freso
ruaok: Added a paragraph, sent it to you in PM.
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Freso
Scheduling the post to go live in 28 minutes. :)
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alastairp
Freso: got the google form?
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9:37 AM
Freso
No.
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alastairp
ah, I see
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alastairp
theme changed a little bit đź‘Ť
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Freso
:)
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alastairp
provide a mapping. Between MBIDs
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9:37 AM
alastairp
a few erronious .s
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Freso
:p
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Freso
Fixed.
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ruaok
Go! :-)
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Freso
🙌
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Freso
It will be live in 15 minutes.
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ruaok
Me too. :-)
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Freso
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Freso
"On-Page SEO means more now than ever since the new Google update: Panda." XD
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Freso
LordSputnik: Ikr!
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Gentlecat
is there a way to vote on tags through the WS?
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10:27 AM
reosarevok
Freso: just woke up, did you already tweet?
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reosarevok
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10:28 AM
Freso
reosarevok: I didn't. :)
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10:28 AM
Freso
Gentlecat: You can add tags, but don't know if you can do "negative" tags.
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10:29 AM
Freso
(And adding a tag is the same as +'ing it.)
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10:31 AM
Gentlecat
ok, didn't know that
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Freso
But now you do! :D 🙌
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Gentlecat
but I still would like to be able to delete them
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Gentlecat
alastairp: would be nice to have that on AB. what do you think?
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alastairp
have what?
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10:44 AM
Gentlecat
tags
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alastairp
hmm
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alastairp
we should use other sources
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alastairp
we could have tags, but then just store them on MB
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Gentlecat
that's what I mean, use MB tags
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10:45 AM
Gentlecat
but have a way to view/add/vote on AB
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10:46 AM
Gentlecat
and perhaps use them with dataset stuff later
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10:46 AM
reosarevok
Freso: there you go
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reosarevok
Or as my old Spanish teacher would say, "Here you are a timely tweet"
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alastairp
yeah, definitely an interesting idea
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reosarevok
Yeah. I'd like to see an audio analysis of the average "fix me" release
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reosarevok
Are they more or less danceable than normal? :D
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reosarevok
(Only half joking, that'd actually be kinda interesting to see what kind of stuff is marked as such)
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Freso
reosarevok: 🙌
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ruaok
Lol.
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ruaok
Someone plz tweet the blog post!
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Gentlecat
Freso: r/ids/IDs
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Freso
ruaok: Already done. :)
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Freso
Gentlecat: Now done. :)
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Freso
Uh.
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Freso
LordSputnik Leo_Verto, for whatever reason, I don't have access to manage #metabrainz in the botbot interface. Can you look into it?
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Gentlecat
[OfF] that looks like a bug
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Leo_Verto
sorry, gotta run, will try to look into it later
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Gentlecat
...
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LordSputnik
Freso: surely you have the same ability to manage it as Leo_Verto and I? :S
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LordSputnik
(through the web interface)
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Freso
LordSputnik: I don't know.
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Freso
There are 3 or so channels I can't manage, but I can manage the rest.
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LordSputnik
By "manage", what do you mean exactly?
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Freso
Access /manage.
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Freso
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LordSputnik
Ahh
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LordSputnik
OK, you should be able to add yourself as a "manager", since you're an admin - I've done it for you for now (for future reference, you can probably go to /admin > Channels > <channel_name> then add yourself under the membership bit at the bottom)
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LordSputnik
But try it now and see if it's worked?
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Freso
Oh. I forgot that I could use /admin. -.-
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chirlu
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Gentlecat
chirlu: thank you!
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reosarevok
navap: dunno if you've gotten a reply for the mail you sent earlier, but the answer is pretty much "not at the moment" sadly
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alastairp
I suspect he's on his phone, which is capitalising the first word of each sentence
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alastairp
also, that sounds like a bug in the bot
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LordSputnik
alastairp: well no, we've just never set it up to deal with variations on [off]
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ruaok
alastairp: that
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Gentlecat
still a bug
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ruaok
Someone plz fix that
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LordSputnik
Gentlecat: if we'd required it to deal with variations when it was set up, then it's a bug, but we didn't, so it's a feature request :P
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Gentlecat
fair enough
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LordSputnik
ruaok: done :)
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chirlu
Requirement R-3252 which you’ll find on page 782 of the specification clearly says “case-insensitive matching”.
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chirlu
[OFF] off off
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ruaok
LordSputnik: thank you! Deployed as well?
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Freso
alastairp ruaok Gentlecat, the old chatloggers would log [Off] messages. The plugin made for botbot was written to be identical to the old thing.
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Freso
(Not that I don't agree it should be changed. Just some context for why it is so currently. :))
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LordSputnik
ruaok: deployed what?
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LordSputnik
Ohh. I was saying "done" to having deleted the messages
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12:04 PM
LordSputnik
Not to having modified the bot (though I've created a PR for that now too)
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Freso
LordSputnik: Commented.
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LordSputnik
Freso: there's a description too though - I was going to write more but GitHub moaned at me about going over 60 characters
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Freso
LordSputnik: The description will be viewed far less frequently than the title.
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LordSputnik
Freso: I can fix it if nobody has pulled the change :P
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Freso
LordSputnik: It's a PR, people should expect it to not be stable.
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Freso
LordSputnik: Much better! đź‘Ť
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LordSputnik
:P
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12:15 PM
kepstin improves the wording a little bit
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12:19 PM
LordSputnik
I do think we should start thinking about centralizing MeBID allocation to eliminate the possibility of conflicts between projects assigning UUIDs
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12:20 PM
kepstin
the design intent of UUIDs is of course that they can be generated by separate parties with minimal risk of conflicts, of course.
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kepstin
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12:21 PM
LordSputnik
kepstin: true, but there's still non-zero risk, and when we've allocated millions of them it might be significant enough to be a problem?
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12:21 PM
kepstin
millions? no.
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kepstin
"only after generating 1 billion UUIDs every second for the next 100 years, the probability of creating just one duplicate would be about 50%"
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LordSputnik
kepstin: at the moment the possibility of a collision is about 5x10^-22
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12:23 PM
LordSputnik
So, you're right, probably not worth worrying about
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12:23 PM
kepstin
that said, if people screw up the RNG, you can get collisions all over the place
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12:24 PM
kepstin
interesting post recently where people using PHP in Apache in prefork MPM mode, it failed to properly re-initialize the openssl RNG when forking. So as soon as you hit a PID wraparound, you got duplicate UUIDs
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12:25 PM
ybsar_
|off] Freso: What about a name change to SpotifyAteMyBrainz? That would take only 30 min. in the oven. Serve it with a slice of lemon.
