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      • QuoraUK
        Hi,
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      • Freso
        🙋
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      • zas
        Hey
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      • QuoraUK
        I have been bogged down with coursework, getting it done around thursday so will get back looking through the code and getting involved around then
      • 2016-04-25 11616, 2016

      • Freso
        Fantastic. :)
      • 2016-04-25 11623, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        but not much to report this week really, looking forward to getting stuck in though :)
      • 2016-04-25 11629, 2016

      • Freso
        So are we!
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      • Freso
        Also, remember this is the "community bonding" phase, so just hanging around and chatting is also fine. :)
      • 2016-04-25 11610, 2016

      • Freso
        Anyway, thanks QuoraUK :)
      • 2016-04-25 11616, 2016

      • Freso
        armalcolite: Go!
      • 2016-04-25 11616, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        yeah, thats cool cheers
      • 2016-04-25 11634, 2016

      • armalcolite
        nothing to report as of now, was busy with exams and assignments.
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      • Freso
        👍
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      • Freso
        hellska is not around.
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      • Freso
        kartikgupta0909 is not around.
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      • armalcolite
        (would join the league from next week:) )
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      • Freso
        cetko is not around.
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      • Freso
        I guess that's it for this week then. :)
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      • chrisskye
        May I pose a question to the group?
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      • Freso
        chrisskye: Shoot.
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      • chrisskye
        Does anyone recall any information about MusicReports using MusicBrainz?
      • 2016-04-25 11608, 2016

      • chrisskye
        I have them on my list...made contact...but can’t justify how/where I got the lead...
      • 2016-04-25 11608, 2016

      • Freso can't recall having heard of "MusicReports", so no...
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      • chrisskye
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      • chrisskye
        I read that they have their own database maybe...
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      • chrisskye
        If anyone knows or hear’s of anything...to remind me why they were on my radar - I’d be grateful!!!
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      • zas
        SongdexÂŽ is the world's largest and fastest-growing registry of music copyright and related business information, containing detailed, relational data on tens of millions of songs, recordings, and their owners, covering virtually all of the commercially significant music in existence.
      • 2016-04-25 11607, 2016

      • zas
        Looks too good... ;)
      • 2016-04-25 11620, 2016

      • chrisskye
        ^so how’d it get constructed? And, who is feeding it?
      • 2016-04-25 11624, 2016

      • Freso
        "commericlally significant"
      • 2016-04-25 11630, 2016

      • Freso
        *commercially
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      • bitmap
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      • Freso
        bitmap bit me to it. :)
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      • chrisskye
        :) thanks
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      • Freso
        Alright, and with that, let's call it quits. :)
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      • Freso
        </BANG>
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      • Freso
        Thanks for your time everyone.
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      • Freso
        As I said earlier, I'll be sending an e-mail to our 7 GSoC students asking that they come say hi next week, so hopefully people will be around to say hi back. ;)
      • 2016-04-25 11632, 2016

      • zas
        Ooops, missed the /BANG
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      • zas
        http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-811 <--- we need to release a new version of Picard soon ;)
      • 2016-04-25 11600, 2016

      • chrisskye
        How do you think those 40 musicologists check on data?
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      • Freso
        zas: We've need to release a new version of Picard soon for a while now. :p
      • 2016-04-25 11630, 2016

      • Freso
        *needed
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      • Freso
        chrisskye: Ask them. Search their db for MusicBrainz Test Artist.
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      • zas
        Freso: i mean, we _really_ need to do it ;)
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      • Freso
        zas: I don't disagree. :)
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      • zas
        That said, i'm really unsure about fixes needed, so if someone wants to help on this.... rahulr ?
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      • chrisskye
        I have a reply from someone in licensing (legal?) isn’t the department that is friendly about questions.
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      • Mineo
        zas: I don't think releasing a new version of picard allows switching to https for the web service any time soon - half the world is most likely not going to get that new version for at least several months
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      • MBJenkins
        Project musicbrainz-server_master build #384: ABORTED in 1 min 8 sec: https://ci.metabrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-server_…
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      • zas
        Mineo: this is why we need to release soon, we will not switch to https-only until main apps are compliant enough
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      • zas
        chrisskye: see the last question of their FAQ
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      • zas
        "You can register your entire song catalog with us and update us as you add or remove works from your catalog over time. The best way to send catalog information to us is to send an excel spreadsheet to ..."
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      • chrisskye
        hmmmm
      • 2016-04-25 11601, 2016

      • zas
        The excel part is dedicated to ruaok ;)
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      • chrisskye
        And with that they are “the world’s largest and fastest growing”?
      • 2016-04-25 11633, 2016

      • chrisskye
        that system?
      • 2016-04-25 11622, 2016

      • zas
        Yes ofc ;) i think we need to understand "commercially significant" as "commercially significant for Music Reports".
      • 2016-04-25 11634, 2016

      • chrisskye
        lol. ok.
      • 2016-04-25 11658, 2016

      • chrisskye
        I can’t find any access to their database.
      • 2016-04-25 11614, 2016

      • zas
        Nor i, i doubt they have any public access anyway
      • 2016-04-25 11635, 2016

      • zas
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Reports says "Music Reports has compiled and maintains SONGDEX, a proprietary database of over 70 million sound recordings and related musical compositions, publishers, composers, and related payment information."
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      • zas
        https://www.musicreports.com/#terms says "The information contained in the database has been provided to or obtained by MRI from a variety of sources, and MRI makes no warranties or representations whatsoever with respect to its accuracy." ...
      • 2016-04-25 11634, 2016

      • chrisskye
        What are the odds MB is one of those ‘variety of sources’?
      • 2016-04-25 11615, 2016

      • chrisskye
        I guess it does not matter...unless I can find “specific information” supporting a claim that they use our database...they aren’t going to talk to me. :/
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      • zas
        Plus they are "Delaware-based" according to WP, while it is quite unobvious from their website (contact in CA) ;)
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      • darwin
        most american corporations are based in delaware legally
      • 2016-04-25 11638, 2016

      • darwin
        because it is the most favorable corporate environment legally
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      • Freso
        darwin: Yo!
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      • Freso
        PM?
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      • Freso
        //query
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      • Leftmost
        LordSputnik, looking at https://docs.atlassian.com/jira/REST/latest/ and some of the principles (for documentation and for resources) may be good to consider as we build -ws.
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      • rahulr
        zas, Ok. Will look into it as soon as I can.
      • 2016-04-25 11645, 2016

      • rahulr
        i.e. 811.
      • 2016-04-25 11601, 2016

      • zas
        rahulr: basically, there are a core issue with the way 301 responses are handled (Picard handles them as a 302, which isn't much an issue for now), but the PR i made needs to be tested
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      • Leo_Verto
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      • rahulr
        zas, Got it. Will ping you later about this.
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      • zas
        rahulr: thank you :)
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      • ruaok
        ugh. london weather. da hell is wrong?
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      • LordSputnik
        ruaok: what about it? seems OK here, although there were hailstones earlier :P
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      • ruaok
        4C?
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      • ruaok
        It was 25C over the weekend here. I put away my "winter" clothes.
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        plex.tv
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      • ruaok
        intentionally without the off. so everyone knows whats up
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      • Freso
        👍
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      • Freso
        They were the ones with the banned IPs too, right?
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      • ruaok
        yep
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      • ruaok
        and "have stopped using your service" really means, "your sysadmin blocked the shit out of us"
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      • zas
        True.
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      • ruaok
        ok, bed time. flight in 7.5 hours.
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      • Freso
        Well, shitty that they've been hitting us so hard, but sounds like they're at least seeing that that's not the way forward. :)
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      • Freso
        Bona nit ruaok
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      • ruaok
        nn all, sorry for missing the meeting freso, but tonight was really worth it. met a great MB fan.
      • 2016-04-25 11615, 2016

      • zas
        nn ruaok
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      • ruaok
        he was so excited to be working with us. just as we are to be working with him. good stuff.
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      • Freso
        ruaok: Sure, no problem. Nothing of importance tonight. :)
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      • ruaok
        <poof>
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      • Freso
        Fantastic :D
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      • KodeStar
        Heh, Plex hit my api around 90million times a month, they are our biggest hitter
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      • Freso
        What are some crowd-sourced metadata sites that are not *Brainz sites?
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      • Freso
        Oh, I guess all the Kodi ones.
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      • Freso
        Ehm.
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      • Freso
        I mean the The*DB.com's.
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      • Freso
        >_>
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      • Leo_Verto
        Hmm, doesn't Kodi also host their own MB mirror?
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      • Freso
        I think so.
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      • Freso
        But that was not what I was after. :)
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      • Freso
        I was looking for examples of "crowd-sourced metadata sites that are not *Brainz sites".
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      • KodeStar
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      • Leftmost
        There are crowd-sourced metadata sites that aren't *Brainz? :-P
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      • Leo_Verto
        Yeah, I realize that, it just seems like a dick move for a commercial service like Plex to just use MB directly when free competitors have done it a lot better
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      • Leo_Verto
        But Kodi (XBMC at the time) was how I found out about MB :D
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      • KodeStar
        That site I mentioned is run by a team kodi member
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      • KodeStar
        They are only dependent on metadata though