(oh wait, I guess he was at some festival or something)
2016-05-01 12203, 2016
reosarevok
loujine, MajorLurker: I don't think there's any automatic mailing yet, but *maybe* we have a way to contact all autoeditors now. Freso will know, once he's back...
2016-05-01 12211, 2016
Leftmost
He'll probably even know before then, but it will be more difficult for him to tell us.
2016-05-01 12218, 2016
reosarevok
... you're a terrible human being, Leftmost
2016-05-01 12220, 2016
reosarevok
Also correct :p
2016-05-01 12257, 2016
reosarevok
ruaok: I have no idea about how any of the donation stuff works so please take that one :)
2016-05-01 12209, 2016
reosarevok
(but not today I guess, it's DO NOT WORK day :D )
2016-05-01 12227, 2016
ruaok
reosarevok: lol.
2016-05-01 12235, 2016
ruaok
the bottom line: make a donation, get credit for $donation / $4 per month credit.
2016-05-01 12247, 2016
ruaok
$4 = 1 month, $8 = 2 months.
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ruaok
so, tell him he is right, new donation needed. :)
2016-05-01 12212, 2016
reosarevok
Tricking me to work on Labour day. Dirty capitalist.
2016-05-01 12214, 2016
reosarevok
Ok, will do :)
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ruaok
ha. that was just info, not a demand to work.
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ruaok
:)
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reosarevok
But you know I'll forget it all by tomorrow otherwise :D
2016-05-01 12210, 2016
reosarevok
Ok, answered
2016-05-01 12235, 2016
ruaok supresses another snarky comment
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reosarevok
suppressing snarks sounds almost like work
2016-05-01 12255, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting [at 19 UTC] agenda: Reviews, SSO (Sean), New Search Servers?
2016-05-01 12219, 2016
LordSputnik
Leftmost: we did come up with a plan for ditching Perl in Berlin :) I'll try to remember what it was
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KodeStar
zas, you are going with SOLR for the new search servers right?
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Freso
reosarevok: Situation re: autoeditor group is that we need someone to write a plugin for Discourse to deal with it.
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TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting [at 19 UTC] agenda: Reviews, SSO (Sean), New Search Servers? (zas)
2016-05-01 12249, 2016
Freso
zas: Please do add your name when you add a topic so I know why I have to poke about talking about it. :)
2016-05-01 12229, 2016
reosarevok
loujine, MajorLurker: so, there's still no good way to let all autoeditors know there's an election going on :(
2016-05-01 12208, 2016
MajorLurker
bugger, so should I just cancel it again? That´s unfortunate.
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Freso
Leftmost: Re: gamification, I agree with your sentiment.
2016-05-01 12248, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik Leftmost, re: Google Fonts API, we could possibly copy the fonts over to staticbrainz once that comes around. Or does Google Fonts provide something more than just the font?
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KodeStar
Freso: I think google font provides he best option depending on what the browser supports iirc
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KodeStar
i.e. OT, EOT, WOF, or SVG
2016-05-01 12251, 2016
KodeStar
also if you are using a popular google font like open sans or lato then it's likely to be cached on the users machine already anyway so no extra download
hi all, just out of curiosity (I am busy with freemusicarchive seeder - testing it now) but something I am thinking off is ... how do we link things like the FreeMusicArchive album id to the MB release id ? else we just end up with another release of the same album with a different external link... surely catching / storing the freemusicarchive id's againgst MB id's make more sense ? or am i on the wrong track here
2016-05-01 12201, 2016
madmouser1
like discogs id's
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Freso
madmouser1: Are FMA id's "URLable"?
2016-05-01 12203, 2016
Freso
If so, it might make sense to have FMA added to the "other databases" whitelist and you could link up MBID→FMA ids.
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madmouser1
hi Freso. no but it is in the API
2016-05-01 12210, 2016
madmouser1
Freso: let me quickly check if tere is a correlation
2016-05-01 12221, 2016
madmouser1
Freso: I can't find a correlation between FMA URL & FMAid, but teh FMA id is in FMA API for each album & track and that can be referenced in the api.
2016-05-01 12216, 2016
madmouser1
can I pass (via web seed iow. add realease a "other database" id ? that way I can seed the FMA id for each track and album.
2016-05-01 12222, 2016
madmouser1
I can get the FMA URL from the FMA id via the API ...
2016-05-01 12229, 2016
Freso
madmouser1: Can you get the FMA id via an FMA URL?
2016-05-01 12238, 2016
Freso has no idea how the FMA looks like
2016-05-01 12214, 2016
madmouser1
Freso: No you can't, currently I get it via jQuery in the page then i make an FMA API call to get all the info
the APi have a album_url property that link to FMA URL
2016-05-01 12247, 2016
zas
I'm thinking about centralizing logs from all servers we run, currently log rate is about 1Mbytes/s (all servers cumulated), this will multiplied by 3 at least soon, and to be safe i target 10Mbytes/s . If someone has experience with a tool able to centralize syslog logs as well as user-defined logs (our nginx logs are not in standard format, and we have
2016-05-01 12247, 2016
zas
various apps around with very specific log format), i'm curious about that. For now, we just want to centralize, but in the future parsing/analyzing/etc ...
2016-05-01 12253, 2016
madmouser1
so what I want to do is push (link that FMA album_id to a MBID
2016-05-01 12243, 2016
madmouser1
zas: what about logstash into elasticsearch for the logs
2016-05-01 12213, 2016
madmouser1
zas: logstash have grok patterns you can use for logs
2016-05-01 12220, 2016
zas
madmouser1: yes, that's a possibility, do you use it atm ? at which rate ?
2016-05-01 12211, 2016
zas
ofc i saw fluentd, nxlog, etc... but my question is more about actual experience with those tools and performance/resources/hardware
2016-05-01 12223, 2016
madmouser1
zas: yes i do, not at a 10mb rate, at most i do few 1000 log lines from about 10 sources
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madmouser1
per second
2016-05-01 12206, 2016
madmouser1
but logstash can handle it and Elasticsearch can be in a cluster (for scaling)
2016-05-01 12209, 2016
Freso
madmouser1: I don't think there's a good way to have FMA ids in MB at this moment though. We'd either need to add a new field for it (unlikely to happen) or get attributes ("single point releationships") ported to releases. Either approach would be a schema change and would thus not happen before November at the earliest.
2016-05-01 12218, 2016
Freso
s/though/then/
2016-05-01 12223, 2016
Freso
But we can probably link to the FMA pages anyway, using either "download for free" relationships or something else. reosarevok would be the one to know that.
2016-05-01 12203, 2016
reosarevok
Yeah, I've linked to FMA before I think with download for free
2016-05-01 12216, 2016
madmouser1
Freso: noted, yes I do a "download for free" link at the moment, but just thought it is such a waste to loose a opportunity to pass the FMA id to MB
2016-05-01 12217, 2016
reosarevok
(you can also store the license as a URL)
2016-05-01 12241, 2016
reosarevok
Is there a way to get from the URL to the ID?
2016-05-01 12250, 2016
madmouser1
no
2016-05-01 12210, 2016
madmouser1
currently i get the id from the "embed in page" and tehn to a API call
2016-05-01 12243, 2016
madmouser1
but as I have both pieces of info in the seeder I thought .. let me ask :-0
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madmouser1
)
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reosarevok
I mean there's nothing wrong with seeding the ID to the annotation at least
2016-05-01 12213, 2016
madmouser1
do MB store the notes for each import somewhere ?
2016-05-01 12208, 2016
madmouser1
or a "comments field" then I can seed the FMA id to that, else I will just leave it for mow and revisit later
2016-05-01 12214, 2016
madmouser1
mow= now
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reosarevok
Yeah, that'd be the annotation
2016-05-01 12228, 2016
reosarevok
I mean, the edit notes are stored but they're a bit more hidden
2016-05-01 12236, 2016
reosarevok
And the "comment"/disambiguation isn't the right place :)
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madmouser1
nope
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madmouser1
ok lets leave it at that for now, I might push it ot the notes field just because I can :-)
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reosarevok
Honestly, we've had stuff like that in the annotation before
2016-05-01 12219, 2016
reosarevok
Once we have release attributes in the same way we have work attributes now, the IDs can go there
2016-05-01 12226, 2016
reosarevok
(and that's planned, eventually :) )
2016-05-01 12239, 2016
reosarevok
If the importer always stores it the same way, maybe it can even be moved with a bot again later
2016-05-01 12212, 2016
madmouser1
zas: I am inserting geo data into the logstash logs i use and then display it on maps in Kibana
2016-05-01 12226, 2016
zas
for now, it just about centralizing, such usage will come later
2016-05-01 12257, 2016
madmouser1
reosarevok: yes i can do that and it will allways look the same.
2016-05-01 12223, 2016
zas
search servers have a bad sunday ;)
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madmouser1
logstash itself is great for that as well (like remote syslog)
2016-05-01 12255, 2016
madmouser1
can output everying to text file or into a central syslog if you want to
2016-05-01 12201, 2016
Freso
reosarevok: "And the "comment"/disambiguation isn't the right place :)" - the annotation would be the "most right" place right now.
2016-05-01 12210, 2016
reosarevok
I said that! :p
2016-05-01 12208, 2016
Freso doesn't see that, but okay then
2016-05-01 12206, 2016
reosarevok
" <reosarevok> Yeah, that'd be the annotation"
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madmouser1
zas: can even push logs into redis :-)
2016-05-01 12222, 2016
Freso
reosarevok: Followed by "[that] isn't the right place"
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Freso
Which I claimed that it is, for now.
2016-05-01 12215, 2016
reosarevok
Followed by the fact the field sometimes labeled "comment", i.e. the disambiguation, isn't the right place, because they mentioned a "comments field" :p
2016-05-01 12230, 2016
reosarevok
I don't remember if the WS still says comment or not
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Leftmost
reosarevok, you love me, even though I'm terrible. <3
Freso, the part that's making me grumpy is the part in the lobes theme.less that imports the API's CSS, which is getting pulled in during our build process and timing out much of the time.
2016-05-01 12211, 2016
Freso
reosarevok: By you liking https://community.metabrainz.org/t/auto-editor-el… , I assume you'd be willing to be the one sending out the 3+ e-mail notifications for each autoeditor election until the tickets get fixed?
2016-05-01 12241, 2016
reosarevok
If I had DB access, I'd be happy to :p
2016-05-01 12238, 2016
reosarevok
(or a list of the emails, anyway)
2016-05-01 12204, 2016
reosarevok
I don't think there's any need for 3+ notifications either
2016-05-01 12237, 2016
reosarevok
If someone can't find enough seconders for an election to start before the mailings via IRC or whatever, the election is probably not that likely to work anyway...
2016-05-01 12248, 2016
reosarevok
So just one notification "hey this election is on" should be enough IMO
2016-05-01 12214, 2016
Freso
You can probably ask bitmap or Gentlecat or zas to make the dump for you. Remember to use BCC's so we don't share editors' e-mails.
2016-05-01 12237, 2016
Freso
3 notifications: Election opened, seconders needed; seconders found, open for voting; voting closed, results.
2016-05-01 12217, 2016
Freso
The "open for voting" one should be sent out ASAP after it happening, to ensure voters get the full time to vote and discuss the election.
