#metabrainz

Which?

discourse splitting

It's not urgent. We'll take it next week.

cliffhanger!

^

hn

CatQuest: Which is why I didn't want to cut off yvanz' topic just to squeeze the Discourse one in in the last few minutes, with not enough time to actually get it discussed.

LordSputnik: As long as you're available for QuoraUK this week for their final eval and make your own final eval next week, I'm good.

hmm I just thought of something.. should Critique Brainz just be about music? should it not also maybe be a "repository for creative commons licensed music reviews" but maybe book (and ultimatly movie reviews too?)

and if we get GameBrainz too

I think Gentlecat at one point talked about getting BB hooked into CB? Maybe I'm misremembering.

and also I have a hen to pick with you LordSputnik

srsly

yes, that would be good

somebody just need to do the work integrating two together

i wouldn't midn that at all

but LordSputnik hello!

also, it's not just music anymore

we have places and events

no?

CatQuest: what about the instruments description field topic? is more discussion needed?

(oh, it just took me so long to write a sentence, you already started another topic :)

yvanz: i definitely want more discussion on it, but finally, I have not as much to say about it, I will ldefer to reosarevok, Gentlecat and others about waht they think is best

ah, but basically, what reosarevok said, that if we *do* make a decission to change these disamb. we'd need to go through all of them anyway, so I might as well add instruments like I have been doing, and not to wory about it

I do add my own text and do try to be as short as possible

Yes, it is more a question of what's the best way to handle translations. The disambiguation (or description with short content) is missing anyway.

ruaok, Freso: I'd quite like to go to the mentor summit but won't know for sure if I can make it until end of September. So if you need two definites before then I'll have to skip this one

yvanz: yes for many of thme this is true, they are blank

LoooooordSputnik: ಠ_ಠ

CatQuest: link to console paste seen, I'll investigate

oh good. I was wondering if you were avoiding me for a reason or something :V

No no :)

good :)

I'll play some torchlight and drink bailies then :P

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celebrate \o/

hi MBJenkins !

!m MBJenkins

You're doing good work, MBJenkins!

Just half way through scanning a pile of papers on Windows, so no development going on

ick

:)

well the scanning part. it's a pita no matter what systme you're on

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CatQuest: yeah but better than having piles of papers :)

Good news is that I'm loving using the Redux library and I've got the alias part of the new editing form done :D

cant wait to test :D

are they the colourful flat ones? i liekd those

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CatQuest: the style is similar to the current one but the layout is better, validation is clearer and it's really really fast and responsive

:O

So, LordSputnik, I'm not sure how to add this pizza place flier.

¬_¬

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Freso: same as a comic, when they bring out a new pizza flier, add it as an edition to the same publication :P

but seriously, pizza flyrs?

CatQuest: what version of FF was that paste from?

Ⅾ:

I thought you updated to 30-something?

hmm I was having issues with installed plugins to make it work like before comflicting with eacother...

I'll try again

I'm sorry

A lot of the errors in that are to do with select2, which we're probably dropping eventually, and I can try fixing a couple of the others

thank you

Gentlecat: “get things straight” translates into “mettre les points sur les i” in French, literally: to put dots on “i” letters. ;)

in any case, as long as it's this low a number, atleast it'll be working for more people or something? :B

yvanz: heeeh

well, the problem with running any firefox version other than latest or supported esr (currently 45) is that you don't get any security fixes. It's about as bad as using windows xp :/

CatQuest: yeah, it works in 38, and that's over a year old, so I think you're one of an unfortunate handful :(

I'm an unfortunate handfull

hi

thanks for working on this. I'll try to get a grip and move over to the later 30 sometihng

I'd strongly recommend 45 at the oldest, for your personal safety :/

djea but then things have to stop sucking and braking first and they wont

so it's a choice between "has known security issues" and "i don't like the ui"? :/

I don't mind safty updates and wish I could get those and the usability ones WITHOUT the interface changes

it's a choize between "more and more sites breaking" and "I can't use this because halp"

well, at the very least, make sure you have a good ad blocker installed, consider using noscript, and be careful about what sites you go to :/

heh I have an adblocker, a cookie blokcer a flash blocker and RequestPolicy (which blocks *every* single offsite link unless i explicitly allow it)

s/link/request

I think ghostery was there at one point too but I got rid of it because between the others it was unecessary

but yea, I'd love if someone could just.. idk, put all the upgrade junk and usability junk from more recent editions and just. put it inside something that works the same way the ui does in the one i have

I'm fed up with borwsers that require upgrading every 30 minutes honestly

and this "remove all text from buttons and make those buttons so fucking gray hat do they mean? who cares!!! uuhhm... mobile stuff! waheeyy" whatever

tbh, the firefox ui hasn't actually changed in quite a long time at this point. it's getting close to the time when they're probably gonna rewrite the ui all again...

great. hopefully they'll reinvent the wheel and let me put in text under the icons again! \o/

there is a user blug in thatallows this. but it conflicts with a plug in that colours tabs so they hshow up indomain colours

(very, very useful for me to see if tabs belogn to the same domain very fast)

i use it so much

CatQuest: maybe you could try going up one version at a time, then fixing the UI to how you like it incrementally?

and then I have an issue with "session manager" stopping wokring after 35

LordSputnik: yea that's what I was doing

well, going up one version at a time won't really help, because it's a sudden jump from the old xul-based ui to the "australis" ui

but the problem was that it literally didn't have the ablity to change that I liked after.. what was it 30 or something

yes that

asically 2i can chose icons with text underneath" or "make everything look like chorme!!!11"

https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2013/11/australis-i... was the announcement for that

it was a complete ui rewrite that broke basically all ui modifying extensions

loi "Designing great products that make sense & bring joy"

ye, that.. that is so useless ot me

http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-imag... is a coke btw, those are gray blobs that explain nothing

joke not coke

hey, at least the icons in that menu have labels

yes but they don't if yo udrag thme naywhere

(:/)

but alas, i 'll have hope for the future about this redesign thing

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:crossing fingers:

probably gonna be more of the same

I wonder if there is a unicode for that

whats the point then?

CatQuest: have you tried other browsers?

rebuilding the UI in HTML so they can just render the entire window using the browser

well, chrome is... basically the same

and so is opera

I think Opera's pretty good for customization

I suppose there's internet explorer, but that's IE

it *was*

and i'd use that fucking that if i wasn't using a mac here but no

(edge is of course basically the same ui layout as firefox and chrome, but even flatter)

last good opera was 12 on win and 10 on mac

what i liekd about ff whne i switched ot it was that it let me costumise things

I don't understand why people want things to be harder to use

if you like that chrome shit, fine! use it, let peopel customise so yo ucna have it differently

so people who like a can have a, people woh like gdgdbfdn cna have thnat then!

i don't get this bullshit "one way to do it and it's going ot be *this* way that everyone esle is doing

hello? peopel are not sillyputty to go trought a mold

people do things differntly

well, as a software developer, supporting customization is *really hard*

because thwy are differnt

well they managed until the ui change

the fact that firefox still offers as much customization as it does (which is still far more than chrome) is the fact that the mozilla org is still paying devs to make it that way

but in order to do that, they need the browser defaults to appeal to the mass market :/

I just wish they did it properly, and not halfassed so people didn't have to install half a dozen plugins that conflict with eachother :/

oh yea that's fine , I don't mind assbackwards (to me, that is) "defaults"

it's whne the defaults are "mandatory" i just.. don't want ot upgrade

so it's a hard balancing act of adding new features that people demand, fixing security issues, mass market appeal, and making sure customization works, and they simply don't have enough people working on it to do everything

it's like.. the browser is The tool i use on the computer the most, yanno? i need it to work *my* ay and not chnage la lthe time

meanwhile, i'm sure google could do that with chrome - they sure have the money for it - but they explicitly chose not to

yea, and that's assackwards completely