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      • adhawkins
        Hi guys, just wondering if there was any update on fixing up the missing ASINs as a result of MBS-9093?
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      • adhawkins
        I think it was chirlu who accepted responsibility :)
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      • chirlu
        No update, no.
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      • adhawkins
        Ok, just wanted to check. My nightly tag comparisons are pretty noisy as a result :)
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      • chirlu
        Are you always comparing against the state from X weeks ago?
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      • adhawkins2
        chirlu: I compare the tags in my music files against those in the current database.
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      • adhawkins2
        I get an email overnight telling me which music files have changed, then I (usually) check those changes to see if I want to apply them.
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      • adhawkins2
        Now I'm getting an email with hundreds of files that need to have the ASIN removed, so it's hard to find the real updates within then (so I've just given up until this is resolved!).
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      • reosarevok
        chirlu: do you know if there's any reason not to remove https://musicbrainz.org/relationship/00687ce8-17e… if https://musicbrainz.org/statistics/relationships shows 0 uses? :)
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      • reosarevok
        (not sure if we have some agreement to leave them there in case they're on someone's tags or something... unlikely as that seems for this one!)
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      • chirlu
        No, if it’s empty, I think it can go.
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      • chirlu
        Do tags even include generic relationships?
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      • reosarevok
        No clue!
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      • reosarevok
        *poof* gone! :) Yay one less deprecated rel
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, you might also have useful input on the other issue I'm looking at :)
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      • reosarevok
        I'm adding http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-674 - but I'm not too sure what to do with link phrases (since it should be clear it's about scores)
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      • reosarevok
        I've added a "get the score" parent, how does name: purchase for mail-order, link phrases: "purchase score for mail-order" / "score mail-order purchase page for" / "The score for {entity1} can be purchased for mail-order at {entity0}" sound?
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      • reosarevok
        (long and ugly, I know, but I can't think of shorter stuff that's still clear :/ )
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      • reosarevok
        (anyone else who has opinions, please give them too :) )
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      • reosarevok
        yvanz: is https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… the only line that needs removing to deactivate the score whitelist?
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      • Zastai
        is it always going to be mail order, or do score sites also do PDFs and the like?
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      • reosarevok
        Downloaded, sold scores are possibly rarer but do exist. I added both options: https://musicbrainz.org/relationships/url-work but can (and would like to) still improve the link phrases :)
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      • reosarevok
        (http://www.digitalsheetmusic.org/ is linked on the ticket, so)
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      • Zastai
        those phrases seem ok to me
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      • Zastai
        possibly an ending "at" for the reverse ones? not sure if the url-release ones do
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      • Zastai
        ah, they don't. so yeah if they're the same phrases as for the release purchases (but adding "score" where applicable), that sounds fine to me
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      • Zastai
        also, based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheet_music, "score" tends to refer to cases where all parts are printed together, while "sheet music" is a more generic term that would also apply to just the trumpet part. So perhaps the relationships should use "sheet music"?
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      • chirlu
        reosarevok: Yes, would be the only line.
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      • reosarevok
        Well, they do indicate score/sheet music on the description - I kept score because that's what we used in the past and seemed more clear to stick to the same word
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      • github
        [musicbrainz-server] reosarevok opened pull request #388: MBS-9110: Remove the score whitelist (master...mbs-9110) https://git.io/vXY93
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      • alastairp
        sigh
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      • alastairp
        OK. last day of my weekend today
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      • alastairp
        do I make it count? or just watch TV?
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      • reosarevok
        You mean b isn't part of a?
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      • alastairp
        you make a really good point
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      • Freso
        vin-ivar: Any chance you could give a summary of what was discussed? (Both because I want to know what I missed out on, but also in case there's something of relevance that we, as a GCI org., would benefit from being aware of.)
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: The relationship had also been deprecated for more than two years: http://web.archive.org/web/20140601155128/https:/…
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      • zas
        I'm setting up metrics collection on hetzner hosts, using telegraf instead of collectd
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      • Zastai
        could I get some votes for this merge so that I can finish my cleanup? https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/41499650
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      • Freso
        Zastai: You probably wanted to post that in #musicbrainz :)
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      • Zastai
        did, but only hib is there :)
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      • Leo_Verto
        LordSputnik, a "this site requires cookies" headers for BookBrainz would be useful, wouldn't it?
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      • CatQuest
        does this exist as a bugreport: I go to https://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/1de50207-8b74… and click "copy credit" then when I go to my add release tab and use "paste credits" it does not, infact preserve the credit. but pastes the artistname as is (with the leading dot and funky caps)
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      • Freso
        Zastai: Just because people aren't active in the chat, doesn't mean they aren't there - or won't see the message when they're back (or read the chatlogs).
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      • CatQuest
        also trying to backspace in the credit (in the add release editor) is strange, it keeps trying to replace the name os i am forever backspacing
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      • Zastai
        I know Freso; I did wait 2 hours before asking again.
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Not that I know of. Either way, if you can't find a matching bug report yourself, go ahead and make a new ticket. If it turns out to be a dupe, someone (likely chirlu…) will mark it as a dupe of the original and no harm has been done. :)
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      • CatQuest
        no wait it won't let me backspace the entire, once I get to the first (or last, using del) letter/punctuation it replaces it with the entire old credit
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      • Freso
        Zastai: What I'm saying is that this channel isn't the right one for requesting votes in.
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      • CatQuest
        Freso: ja,but i'm like, kinda busy right now :( and i'm alos going ot try add instruments lie ki promised
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      • Freso
        Regardless of who are how many appear to be active in either channel.
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Okay. So do it later. No rush. :)
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      • CatQuest
        no i mean, i'll likly foget :(
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      • Freso
        So just report it then.
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      • CatQuest
        I don't have time right now. sorry :((
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      • Freso
        Okay. No problem.
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      • CatQuest
        I need to try to focus, listening to samorost 3 <3 getting inthe zone, forgive me
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      • Freso
        But there's nothing to forgive.
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      • CatQuest
        it really is something I hope is fixed thoguh
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      • CatQuest
        if you can maybe try o remind me later tonight?
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      • CatQuest
        ick ick! using the "guess feat" button on that (i changed the credit to the right one) just made the feat artist disappear from the trackname witouth adding it to the artist
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      • CatQuest
        I don't even know how ot report this clusterfuck :(
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      • Clint
        a/win 23
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      • Clint
        argh
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      • Freso
        Clint: Time to change password.
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      • yvanz
        CatQuest: I encountered the same bug and came to the same conclusion :/
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      • CatQuest
        :o
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      • CatQuest
        if you ping me later yvanz, maybe in 5 hours? we can work together to report this thing
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      • Zastai
        generally speaking, is every gid used in the data model an mbid, or is mbid as a term reserved for gids associated with top-level entities (artist, work, etc)
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      • Zastai
        for example, alias types and work attributes have types which have both text and a gid; are those MBIDs too, or not? (This is for my class library docs)
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      • Leftmost
        Boo. There's a 501(c)(3) whose purpose is to catalog non-profits and make that information available on their site. But they explicitly claim copyright on the data.
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      • reosarevok
        Leftmost: write to them, ask wtf? :p
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      • Leftmost
        Tempted!
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      • Leftmost
        Particularly since they're asking the non-profits they list to contribute to improve their data.
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      • reosarevok
        What's there to lose!
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      • reosarevok
        Oh. Then definitely
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      • CatQuest
        it's graceNot all over again
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      • bitmap
        I've been adding them manually, I don't know of an automated way
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      • bitmap
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      • ruaok
        k
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      • zas
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      • CatQuest
        hey, would it be possible to consider purchasing for me https://books.google.no/books/about/The_Grove_Dic… like for adding this data into musicbrainz as instruments, and to put it into the salary in metabrainz as "database enquiery investment" or whatever? :P
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      • CatQuest
        just an idea :D
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      • CatQuest
        they have the 1984 edition (first?) here at the library in Oslo, but it's not for lending (it's huge :o)
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      • CatQuest
        also metabrainz office should own the dictionary of music nad musicians and have it in it's office too :o
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      • CatQuest
        (in all seriousness, it would be awesome to have a (non-online) source of instrument-data to reference too, and wikipedia even sources this :o)
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      • ruaok
        heh.