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      • anshuman73
        Freso|laptop: Thanks a lot !
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      • Krishanu
        Hello everyone! I'm Krishanu. I'm a 3rd year CSE student would like to contribute to BookBrainz. I am a newbie to open source development. Can somebody point me to the right direction and get me started? Thanks!
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      • bitmap
        zas: do we know stats from the old servers? i.e. the avg response time and the hits/s per server
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      • CallerNo6
        Leftmost, LordSputnik Leo_Verto ^^
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      • Leo_Verto
        \o/
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      • Leo_Verto
        Welcome!
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      • Leo_Verto
        Krishanu, In general, everything BB-related is part of this github organization https://github.com/bookbrainz/
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      • Leo_Verto
        There are also developer docs but I'm not sure how up-to-date they are https://bbdocs-dev.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index…
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      • CallerNo6
        oh, neat, I like that there's a base "entity" class.
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      • zas
        bitmap: not really, we didn't have those we have now
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      • bitmap
        okay
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      • bitmap
        but we're handling less overall requests than before?
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      • zas
        yes, we went up to 700 r/s on webservice at OldHost, we are currently at 350r/s on ws (rate limited), i could increase the rate limit, but the load is growing very fast
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      • zas
        but many things changed, comparing those values may not be a good idea. But the question is the following: how to reduce cpu usage on web servers ?
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      • zas
        ws response time is around 40ms at best, we could start to see if we can lower that.
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      • bitmap
        right, it just seems surprising that the new servers are slower
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      • zas
        servers (hardware) is faster, but perhaps dockerized mbs is slower
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      • bitmap
        that's also surprising :)
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      • zas
        ruaok want to us to monitor few urls, i would propose to use one xml request and one json
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      • zas
        http + https
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      • Leo_Verto
        by the way, is the grafana still publicly available? if so, what is the user/pw combo?
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      • bitmap
        the code didn't change much, and we bumped perl from 5.18 to 5.22
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      • zas
        Leo_Verto: just sign in, and you're done
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      • bitmap
        so overhead from docker itself?
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      • zas
        bitmap: i dunno exactly, it shouldn't be that much
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      • zas
        ws doesn't use TT at all ?
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      • bitmap
        no, it doesn't
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      • UmkaDK is jumping into the middle of a conversation and possibly getting the wrong end of a stick
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      • UmkaDK
        bumped perl from 5.18 to 5.22?? Is that on MusicBrainz Slave Server?
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      • Leo_Verto
        zas, ah thanks, that didn't even occur to me :P
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      • bitmap
        UmkaDK: we're running 5.22 in production currently
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      • zas
        bitmap: we need to profile the code. At least to know in which direction we should go
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      • UmkaDK
        kk, thanks bitmap
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      • bitmap
        we still support 5.18 though
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      • UmkaDK relaxes ... a lot!!
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      • UmkaDK
        :)
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      • UmkaDK
        For a second I though I might have missed something very important! :)
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      • bitmap
        :)
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      • bitmap
        zas: I'm still curious...if we set up a copy of the old codebase somewhere (using perl 5.18, memcached, no docker) and load-tested it on the same hardware
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      • samj1912
        bitmap: zas , is any work being done on this https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/PICARD-546?…
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      • samj1912
        I'd like to continue phw's work otherwise :)
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      • bitmap
        you can try asking him on his pull request
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      • bitmap
        if you can take over his branch
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      • bitmap
        I'm sure he won't mind if he's busy
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      • samj1912
        okay :)
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      • zas
        samj1912: actually a good idea if you can take over this one
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      • samj1912
        cool, ill ask phw and get started?
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      • samj1912
        bitmap: cant see a pull request on that branch
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      • bitmap
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      • samj1912
        thanks :D
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      • pwnguin
        chirlu: a month agomusicbrainzvm2 was shut off. May I delete the associated database from our servers?
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      • reosarevok
        ... clicked the wrong button and assigned to me :D sorry, assigned back. I don't think outsidecontext has had much time recently
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      • samj1912
        Okay :)
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      • samj1912
        Cool
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      • samj1912
        I'll get started on it
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      • reosarevok
        yay
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: should I just merge pull requests if you don't get to them within n days?
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      • bitmap
        zas: do you remember what the load averages were like on the old servers when we were handling 700 reqs/s?
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      • bitmap
        I was wondering how much load the new servers can handle without affecting response times
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      • LordSputnik
        Krishanu: first thing you should do is try to get the site code running on your PC - https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site (see README)
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      • LordSputnik
        Krishanu: then have a look around, find something that's broken, talk to me or Leftmost about it and we can come up with a plan :)
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      • reosarevok
        :) Nice!
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      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: which ones besides the ones you opened today are waiting on me?
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      • Gentlecat
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      • ruaok
        perhaps nudge me after a week?
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      • Gentlecat
        sure
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      • Gentlecat
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      • gcilou
        A friend of mine was in BCN last week. I should've had him hurry OTHER-261 for me. oops
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      • Freso|laptop
        UmkaDK, btw, I really appreciate how you're keeping close tabs on this channel. :) I wish more of our supporters' techies/staff would be as much around.
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      • bitmap
        zas: can I move the mbs containers on hip to another node while I do profiling & other tests? not sure where to move them
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      • bitmap
        I have an mbs instance running perl 5.18.2 plus memcached minus docker on hip, too
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      • bitmap
        using the same code as production, just with the memcached changes reverted
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      • bitmap
        we could also just try pointing the gateway to this code, temporarily...it'll be using a different cache, but that possibly won't harm anything because it won't be serving edit pages
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      • bitmap
        it would serve stale web service responses in some cases, of course
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