22:38 PM
CatQuest
I don't think it ever had trm?
22:38 PM
kepstin
some of my mp3 files still have trm ids tagged in them from the classic tagger :/
22:38 PM
CatQuest
or maybe the early, pre-qt one did
22:38 PM
heh
22:38 PM
luks
it only had trms in my dev versions :)
22:39 PM
CatQuest
seriously, is the binary of the classic tagger totally gone? might be nice to justl ook at aouta nostalgia
22:39 PM
aha
22:39 PM
luks
I don't think I ever committed that publicly
22:39 PM
it was a part of the migration to puid
22:39 PM
CatQuest
ah
22:40 PM
also, it wasn't called "classic tagger" it was called "WindowsTagger" heh
22:40 PM
i rememer whne picard was still a pipedream :D
22:40 PM
luks
you can still get the binaries here :)
22:40 PM
22:41 PM
CatQuest
:O
22:41 PM
luks
but I don't expect they will still work, with both the rdf service and trms gone :)
22:41 PM
CatQuest
22:48 PM
Freso
That is indeed a very 90's look. ❤️
22:49 PM
SothoTalKer
uhhh, the old layout :D
22:53 PM
CatQuest
well I always liked it :P
22:53 PM
(I can say that now, right? i wont get moirderd)
22:53 PM
also ya'll realise that 30 yrs in the fuure that's what they'll all say about the way things look now?
22:53 PM
:DDD
22:54 PM
they'll be all like "omg remember that "bootstrap" look. llol"
22:54 PM
XD
22:56 PM
Freso
Mhm.
22:57 PM
CatQuest
wonder what the hell things will look like in 30 years
22:57 PM
Freso
I actually like the classic/traditional 90's app look better than the early 2000's/late 1990's look.
22:57 PM
CatQuest
+1!
22:57 PM
Freso
I feel like a lot of things got very "cartoony" for a period.
22:58 PM
CatQuest
like buttons made to look like some rubber stamp being depressed
22:58 PM
Freso
I do kind of like the current flat trend.
22:59 PM
CatQuest
i dislike some times the "flimsy"-ness though, things moving a pixel around if you put the curos in a area
22:59 PM
and shadows mavoing too
22:59 PM
and the thing with the lack of text on buttons.. but that might be going away soon?
22:59 PM
seems ot be less of it recently :D
23:00 PM
but todays trend is a bit more like the early 90's actually i think
23:00 PM
bit too much whitespace in some apps
23:00 PM
like that daemontools one, it's mostly just space and no text at alljust a few icosn and it'sl ike "aht does these things even do?"
23:02 PM
hmm but that's odd, wnhe ilok at old 90's progs, they all had no text on icons
23:02 PM
so why does it bother me so much more now?
23:04 PM
are the new icons sacrificing simplicity for artyness and trying to not "be so stereotypical" or something?
23:04 PM
Freso
I find that new icons, following material design trends at least, very much are trying to be more simple and less artsy.
23:04 PM
CatQuest
not simplicity. clearness. an arrow down on a diskett is pretty unambiguous to me as what the meaning is.
23:05 PM
Freso
CatQuest: Because you're old.
23:05 PM
CatQuest
but a 3d arow onto a grey box is less.. obvious?
23:06 PM
Freso: if that was the case, the new "save" icon should'a been like upload to an image of a f.kin cloud or something :/
23:06 PM
also i'm not "old"
23:06 PM
Freso
If you've used a floppy disk, you are. :)
23:06 PM
Freso is also old
23:06 PM
CatQuest
i never used floppy discs
23:06 PM
i've used diskettes
23:07 PM
Freso
3,5"?
23:07 PM
CatQuest
i don't know how much inces they are.. probably?
23:07 PM
agentsim very old
23:07 PM
disketter
23:07 PM
agentsim
I used 5 1/4 :(
23:07 PM
CatQuest
:O
23:07 PM
Freso
agentsim: My grandfather had those!
23:07 PM
CatQuest
i've only like.. seen them at a school iwas at. there were no machines that could accept thme stil laround
23:08 PM
Freso
23:08 PM
agentsim
albeit briefly, on a Mac II Classic IIRC
23:08 PM
Freso
(Those are 3,5" floppy discs.)
23:08 PM
CatQuest
Freso: that is not a floppy, that is a discette
23:08 PM
floppy was because they were literally soft, diskettes are hard
23:08 PM
Freso
23:08 PM
CatQuest
ie the 5 1/4
23:09 PM
JonnyJD
CatQuest: inside they are both floppy
23:09 PM
Freso
CatQuest: Regardless, if you've used a diskette, you're old.
23:09 PM
agentsim
ask a kid I was briefly confused by the difference between a hard-drive and a diskette drive :)
23:09 PM
Freso
(Ie., not just used it because "omg, this is, like, so retro!".)
23:10 PM
CatQuest
for once i'm certain that i'm right and the rest of the internet is wrong on this. I've read that the terminology (people sue the term "floppy") incorrectly
23:10 PM
CallerNo6
What if, and I'm not saying I did, but what if I used an acoustic coupler?
23:10 PM
JonnyJD
I used the big floppies and still have some small/hard floppies, And also one machine with a drive..
23:10 PM
CatQuest
CallerNo6 is my hero
23:10 PM
(also i'm not old)
23:10 PM
the small ones are not "floppy" arg!
23:10 PM
I bet you call apatosaurs brontosaurus too!!!1111
23:10 PM
CallerNo6 uses a 5¼ floppy of Monkey Island as a "spoke card".
23:11 PM
agentsim
23:11 PM
CatQuest
hey I've played monkey island! ..from a cd on like win 95/me, but
23:11 PM
Freso
CatQuest: WWW was invented in 1989. Both of us are older than the WWW. On the internet, we are no longer youngsters.
23:11 PM
CatQuest
Freso: still. not. old
23:11 PM
Freso shrugs
23:11 PM
you can be :not a youngster =/= old
23:12 PM
also beign a youngster = sucks
23:12 PM
Freso
Really?
23:12 PM
I think gcilou kinda rocks.
23:12 PM
CatQuest
really, teens are stupid years. i'm glad i'm over those
23:12 PM
I'm not saying youngsters suck, i'm saying beign noe sucked
23:13 PM
gcilou
Danke Freso
23:13 PM
Freso
gcilou: De res.
23:13 PM
CatQuest
gcilou is awesome, that's not at all what am aplying
23:13 PM
gcilou
Danke CatQuest
23:13 PM
kyan joined the channel
23:13 PM
JonnyJD is old enough to go to bed now
23:13 PM
CatQuest
agentsim: I'm 35! yes! exactly! :D
23:14 PM
JonnyJD
by the way, I didn't add windows binaries for libdiscid because there have been no windows changes, but I will merge luks PR later
23:14 PM
CatQuest
but gcilou: when you're 34, you'll look bak on today and think "man, I was so immature!"
23:14 PM
or maybe not, you come off as beign rather mature for your age. so...
23:14 PM
gcilou
Lol thanks....
23:14 PM
But yes I understand you
23:15 PM
CatQuest
hah
23:15 PM
but also I have found.. oddly there is this 20's<16<30's maturity thing going on
23:15 PM
gcilou
I'm more comfortable around "adults" anyway but that may make me precocious or whatnot
23:15 PM
CatQuest
people in their early 20s are more idiiot than middle late teens
23:16 PM
it's like, "now they're really *are* adults so now they really *do* "know everything"" and coem off as arshes
23:17 PM
I'm sure 40-50 year odl me will look bakc on today and think "man, what a prat"
23:17 PM
:D
23:18 PM
gcilou
Ha. I certainly cringe at myself from my early and mid teens
23:18 PM
CatQuest
well I hope gcilou will stay around for another 10 years.. it'd be so cool :)
23:18 PM
gcilou
Thanks me too :)
23:18 PM
CatQuest
\o/
23:18 PM
gcilou: man, youshould see my old liveyournal posts.. man.. (lj was like,, tumbler in the odl days like)
23:19 PM
Freso
Speaking of cringing at our younger selves, I should get all my stuff moved off of LJ.
23:19 PM
CatQuest
but a bit more social, yo ucould comemnt and stuff
23:19 PM
gcilou
Hahah
23:19 PM
CatQuest
Freso: noone can know you used ot be a spice girls fan
23:19 PM
Freso
CatQuest: *BSB
23:19 PM
No. The LJ data has moved to Russian servers.
23:20 PM
CatQuest
wait what
23:20 PM
bsb? backstreet bous?
23:20 PM
boys
23:20 PM
i think i prefer spice girls (mel c was awesome :P)
23:20 PM
Freso
Subject to Russian governmental peeking etc., meaning that non-traditional gendered/sexually oriented people are theoretically in danger.
23:21 PM
CatQuest
..
23:21 PM
uh oh
23:21 PM
seriously?
23:21 PM
Freso
Yes.
23:21 PM
CatQuest
wat.
23:21 PM
wne did this happen
23:22 PM
jeez, jl come a long way since it used ot be like cool and stuff
23:22 PM
Freso
23:22 PM
CatQuest
i don't wanna shut it down since i've got som any memories :/
23:22 PM
Freso
It's been on a downward spiral since it got bought by a Russian company.
23:22 PM
But it's only actually moved the servers to Russia.
23:22 PM
+recently
23:22 PM
Like, December 2016.
23:23 PM
Seems like "dreamhost" is the new "place-to-be".
23:23 PM
"Dreamwidth
23:23 PM
23:24 PM
Oh, yeah, *.livejournal.com also used to be accessible over HTTP—no more.
23:24 PM
CatQuest
https?
23:24 PM
Freso
Oh, yeah.
23:25 PM
hibiscuskazeneko has quit
23:25 PM
CatQuest
ah right.
23:26 PM
gcilou learns so much from the elderly
23:26 PM
Freso
(Which, again, makes it possible to snoop on even private posts, even without gaining physical access to the LJ servers.)
23:27 PM
Freso is sad that he's going to basically lose his permanent account :/
23:34 PM
CatQuest
lol in 2003 I wrote: