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      • antlarr
        Freso: you're welcome :)
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      • github
        [musicbrainz-server] y-van-z opened pull request #481: MBS-8748: Wrap medium name in release tracklist (master...mbs-8748-wrap-medium-header) https://git.io/vyG4D
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      • ruaok
        Freso: thanks. Was nice. :-)
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      • ruaok
        Surprised by my friend being on the same flight as I.
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      • kuno
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      • kuno
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      • kuno
        Freso: my understanding is that both software freedom conservancy and the free software foundation are still talking to GitHub to get things fixed, but currently it's a bad situation.
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      • kuno
        (probably the analysis on mirbsd is slightly alarmist, and it isn't _that_ bad,... but it's still bad)
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      • Freso
        kuno: Reading now. Thanks for the heads up.
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok / Freso: do I even bother to answer the latest gsoc email at support, given they didn't bother to look it up themselves?
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      • ruaok
        Be nice. Send them to the ideas page.
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: the LB one specifically? (since that's the most relevant one I guess)
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      • reosarevok sends a link to the main GSoC bit and the LB one for now, hopefully they won't pester me much about it
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      • Freso idly wonders how many BBC artists add themselves without any URLs or other relationships and thus end up getting purged again... :| (Hopefully not too many.)
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      • reosarevok shrugs
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      • reosarevok
        That's part of the guide too, if they can't read that...
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      • reosarevok sighs at the GSoC person also just writing "Sir," because obviously no women ever use computers
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      • grassknoted
        @ruaok
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      • grassknoted
        alastairp I'm interested in contributing to the Machine Learning Project, "New Machine Learning Infrastructure", I'd really appreciate it if you could tell me what are the skills I would require, and how I could start working on my GSoC 2017 proposal. Thanks in advance!
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      • grassknoted
        Forgive me for sending the same message twice.
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      • alastairp
        grassknoted: do not send private messages to people in IRC
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      • alastairp
        it has a habit of annoying them and they feel less inclined to helping you
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      • Freso
        Also, sending private messages show that you failed to read, or at least failed to comprehend, the "how to get started with GSoC" notes.
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      • grassknoted
        Freso : I apologise, it's not that I failed to comprehend the notes, it's actually my first time using freenode. I'm more comfortable with the slack or gitter clients. I'm sorry, I will not happen again.
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      • Freso
        grassknoted: Ah. You're right. Seems CallerNo6 removed the old heavily worded warnings against doing just that. Sorry about that. My bad. 🙏🏼 :)
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      • Quesito
        zas np! I hope the places I picked were enjoyable for all! :)
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      • Freso
        Hm. Or maybe it was on another page that I'm mixing up now.
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      • alastairp
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      • Freso
        Quesito: The food was amazing!
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      • Freso
        alastairp: Ah. Right. :)
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      • alastairp
        not on GettingStarted, though
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      • Quesito
        Freso: glad you liked it!!!
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      • Freso
        Yeah. That was the one I was looking over. :)
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      • grassknoted
        alastairp: I'm extremely sorry, I didn't intend to private message you.
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      • alastairp
        how do you mention someone in a jira comment?
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      • Freso
        alastairp: Something like [~JiraUsername] I think.
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      • alastairp
        right
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      • akashn97
        Hey! I'm new here, and I'm unable to sign up at: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org
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      • akashn97
        The site prompts me for a Username and Password, even when I'm trying to sign up
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      • Lotheric
        try
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      • Lotheric
        NOTSPAM/NOTSPAM
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      • akashn97
        Thank you so much! It worked! I think the Sign up process should be made a little easier, keeping a naive user in mind, maybe?
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      • Lotheric
        there used to have a popup but with Opera browser I don't see it
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      • Lotheric
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      • BrainzBot
        OTHER-286: Wiki anti-spam authentication broken in Chrome/Chromium
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      • Lotheric
        you can upvote the ticket ;)
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      • alastairp
        akashn97: the problem is with Chrome, unfortunately
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      • akashn97
        alastairp: I'm pretty good when it comes to front end webdev, can I try to solve the issue?
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      • alastairp
        we should try and improve this somehow. Maybe on the signup/login screen?
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      • alastairp
        it would involve editing our mediawiki source. Perhaps you could talk with legoktm, our wiki maintainer
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      • akashn97
        Since the problem lies only with Chrome/Chromium browsers, I suggest we prompt the user to enter NOTSPAM/NOTSPAM
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      • alastairp
        or make a comment on the ticket that Lotheric mentioned
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      • samj1912
        a captcha should be implemented rather than a http auth popup
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      • Lotheric
        I just commented on it myself
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      • alastairp
        right. We do in fact make a comment about this, but chrome has decided to not show it for security reasons
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      • alastairp
        samj1912: does mediawiki have captcha built in?
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      • alastairp
        that would be ideal
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      • samj1912
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      • akashn97
        A simple recaptcha could be implemented. It could be done at the User data-entry page rather than a prompt.
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      • samj1912
        it also has recaptcha, but needs api keys from google
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      • Freso
        I don't think that will be an issue.
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      • akashn97
        That wouldn't take too long to get
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      • alastairp
        Freso: what's our mid-term plan with google cookies?
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      • alastairp
        and does recaptcha use any?
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      • Freso
        (I think we're also already using recaptcha for MB.org. And we actually do get a bunch of spammers signing up there. The wiki seems happily void of spammers though, so the HTTP Auth at least seems to be working. :/)
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      • akashn97
        Is it alright if I assign myself to the bug, or do we adhere to a decorum here at MusicBrainz?
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      • Freso
        akashn97: WP:BB! :) (That is, go ahead and assign it if you're going to work on it. ;))
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      • samj1912
        akashn97: you can take up any issue if its unassigned :)
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      • Freso
        alastairp: I don't think we've gotten any further in that discussion.
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      • alastairp
        akashn97: I recommend that you start a discussion on the ticket as well
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      • alastairp
        Freso: right. and since we already have recaptcha, not much of an issue for now
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      • Freso
        We were going to look into it because the EU cookie law...
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      • Freso
        But that cookie law might be going away soon.
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      • Freso
        (Finally!)
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      • Freso
        Well, "soon".
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      • alastairp
        akashn97: it's good to take the initiative, however most of the implementation of this task will have to be done by metabrainz employees, because it involves configuration, not coding
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      • alastairp
        however, if you can provide a push to make someone enable this plugin, then that's great too!
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      • akashn97
        Alright, I'm sorry I got a little carried away, my main intention here was to just introduce myself. I heard about MetaBrainz because of GSoC, and I'm really fascinated by it now that's I've started reading about it and getting to know it better.
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      • akashn97
        Hope to work with you all this summer! :D
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      • Freso
        akashn97: Getting carried away is a good indicator for a prospective student. :)
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      • Freso
        samj1912 tends to get a bit carried away! :D ❤️
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      • alastairp
        akashn97: amazing introduction! :)
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      • akashn97
        I'm sorry if this is a bad question, but does MetaBrainz use Git?
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      • samj1912
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      • Freso
        akashn97: Heavily :)
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      • alastairp
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      • samj1912
        Freso: :P
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      • akashn97
        I didn't mean to manage the code, I'm sorry I should have been more specific.
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      • samj1912
        akashn97: you should pick a project from https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Development/Summer_o…
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      • akashn97
        What I meant was, why doesn't MetaBrainz just rely on the Issue Tracker Git provides?
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      • samj1912
        ah, we use Jira for changelogs and other things :)
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      • samj1912
        its more flexible and a dedicated issue tracker rather than the one github provides
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      • samj1912
        and theres a difference between git and github :P
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      • akashn97
        I really appreciate all the help and everything. Thanks for getting me started guys :D I'll give it my best!
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      • alastairp
        akashn97: we have used jira for longer than github has existed
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      • alastairp
        so there is a lot of historical reasons for staying with jira
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      • alastairp
        (perhaps that's a small lie, we've definitely been using jira since before the gh issue tracker got good)
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      • Freso
        When did we start using git?
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      • alastairp
        true, we also used subversion and bitbucket before github
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      • Freso
        (I'm genuinely curious.)
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      • alastairp
        look at git log for the first git-svn tag?
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      • samj1912 has just 1 exam left 😎
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      • alastairp
        oli mentioned git-svn in d8758a1281abc6173ac5cbaaf21acd80ce4254ab in November 2008
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      • Freso
        Haha. That was the commit I just found too. :)
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      • iliekcomputers
        samj1912: me too! :)
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      • samj1912
        iliekcomputers: in an IIT?
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      • Freso
        ocharles made a Git mirror in 2008: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/Git-mirr…
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      • iliekcomputers
        nah, an NIT
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      • samj1912
        ah :)
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      • Freso
        And 2010 seems to be when the official move actually happened: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/mb-serve…
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      • akashn97
        Ha ha, I love the community already! Everyone is so friendly and interactive! :D
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      • iliekcomputers
        akashn97: wait for the first code review ;)
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      • iliekcomputers is just kidding
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      • gcilou
        So GCI '15 winners and GCI '16 winners made a mega group chat and..ohmy..
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      • Gentlecat
        iliekcomputers: never take code reviews personally
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      • Freso
        And 2012 is when GitHub became the official git repository for mb_server: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/Making-G… (though code reviews still happened off-GitHub for a while)
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      • github
        [musicbrainz-server] y-van-z opened pull request #482: MBS-9266: Fix subheader of area pages (master...mbs-9266-area-subheader) https://git.io/vyGbb
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      • iliekcomputers
        Gentlecat: haha, I know, I was just making a joke :)
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      • iliekcomputers knows the difference between himself and his code :P
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      • samj1912
        I actually like code reviews :P, my coding has improved tons in quality since I first started in december
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      • alastairp
        akashn97: from our side it's nice that you came in with a problem, discussion, and willingness to work with us, instead of asking us to tell you how to start contributing :)
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      • Freso
        ^
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      • Freso
        samj1912: Well, that's the hope. It'd be tedious having to tell someone the same thing over and over again. :)
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      • samj1912 just realized he has more GH contributions in the last 3 months compared to the rest of his life :P
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      • Freso
        samj1912: 🙌
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      • alastairp
        wow. so many people working on AB tickets. this is great