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      • SothoTalker_
        2.0 won't be released before summer
      • 2017-03-12 07111, 2017

      • Leo_Verto[m]
        Arch obviously already has 3.6 (as the python package, nonetheless)
      • 2017-03-12 07117, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        and you can always do a poll for those linux users :)
      • 2017-03-12 07121, 2017

      • samj1912
        look at more like 1.25 ish years for 2.0
      • 2017-03-12 07130, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        or blog post and people can comment :p
      • 2017-03-12 07135, 2017

      • samj1912
        there's lots of stuff to be done even after the gsoc proposal
      • 2017-03-12 07159, 2017

      • Leo_Verto[m]
        I'd say 3.6 should be supported by all major repos in time then
      • 2017-03-12 07109, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        issue an alpha after gsoc :-)
      • 2017-03-12 07120, 2017

      • Leo_Verto[m]
        and it's not like Picard 2.0 would really need to be backported to LTS ones
      • 2017-03-12 07123, 2017

      • samj1912
        I dont want a poll amongst our end users when they might choose one over the other when the related changes wont even affect their exp. with picard
      • 2017-03-12 07117, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        ok ;)
      • 2017-03-12 07131, 2017

      • samj1912
        I dont think however anyone will have a problem with shipping picard 2.0 with py3.6, I haven't heard any outright opposition against it from any of our devs
      • 2017-03-12 07121, 2017

      • samj1912
        the only problem was luks not being able to package it anymore for osx and windows if we switched over to 3.6
      • 2017-03-12 07118, 2017

      • luks
        well, I might be able to, depending on how much effort do I want to spend on it :)
      • 2017-03-12 07120, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        someone else can do the windows packaging
      • 2017-03-12 07134, 2017

      • luks
        but yes, someone else doing the packaging would be ideal
      • 2017-03-12 07147, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        i might not be automatic though
      • 2017-03-12 07159, 2017

      • samj1912
        well, the osx problem should hopefully be solved by then once we have a mac mini in the office
      • 2017-03-12 07112, 2017

      • samj1912
        and we can use an azure vm for windows packaging
      • 2017-03-12 07122, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        or any other VM
      • 2017-03-12 07128, 2017

      • samj1912
        I volunteer for sett
      • 2017-03-12 07138, 2017

      • samj1912
        *setting up the osx one
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        brb
      • 2017-03-12 07140, 2017

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      • samj1912
        zas: went through the changelog for network related stuff and 3.6 I could find are
      • 2017-03-12 07106, 2017

      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        apart from that, the only deprecated things were the backslash character pairs for which we have already had a fix for
      • 2017-03-12 07136, 2017

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      • samj1912
        and since we use qt for multi threading all the async and threading features wont come into play
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

      • ruaok
        zas: got a moment for some ctmpl advice?
      • 2017-03-12 07132, 2017

      • ruaok
        I'm trying to get a second template to render and it gives me the error
      • 2017-03-12 07134, 2017

      • ruaok
        template "KEY" not defined
      • 2017-03-12 07147, 2017

      • ruaok
        if I have more than one template do I need to name them?
      • 2017-03-12 07101, 2017

      • zas
        yes
      • 2017-03-12 07109, 2017

      • zas
        let me find the matching doc
      • 2017-03-12 07113, 2017

      • ruaok
        do we have an example of this I can look at?
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

      • ruaok
        thx
      • 2017-03-12 07120, 2017

      • zas
      • 2017-03-12 07138, 2017

      • zas
        you can specifiy one or more templates, either in config file, or command-line
      • 2017-03-12 07118, 2017

      • ruaok
        about as clear as mud. :(
      • 2017-03-12 07130, 2017

      • zas
        also you may want to take care of signal handling, especially when using docker, you can pass signal to apps you generate confs for
      • 2017-03-12 07153, 2017

      • ruaok
        wut?
      • 2017-03-12 07108, 2017

      • ruaok
        all I want is to handle a second config file.
      • 2017-03-12 07109, 2017

      • ruaok
      • 2017-03-12 07126, 2017

      • zas
      • 2017-03-12 07106, 2017

      • zas
        an example of using multiple templates and advanced signal handling, allowing to reload apps/templates using docker standard commands
      • 2017-03-12 07138, 2017

      • ruaok
        ok, just to get the template to render, what must I add to this file? https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
      • 2017-03-12 07105, 2017

      • ruaok
      • 2017-03-12 07124, 2017

      • ruaok
        {{template "KEY" "secret_key"}} --> what?
      • 2017-03-12 07102, 2017

      • ruaok is running out of time/patience chasing undocumented and cryptic configuration changes for every little step
      • 2017-03-12 07134, 2017

      • zas
        are you sure you need quotes around this occurence of KEY ?
      • 2017-03-12 07145, 2017

      • ruaok
        not sure of anything.
      • 2017-03-12 07156, 2017

      • ruaok
        I'm just copying things hoping something would work.
      • 2017-03-12 07112, 2017

      • zas
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

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      • reosarevok
        Poor template
      • 2017-03-12 07159, 2017

      • ruaok
        that also makes zero sense to em
      • 2017-03-12 07100, 2017

      • ruaok
        me
      • 2017-03-12 07123, 2017

      • ruaok
        in openresty you have two templates that are not named.
      • 2017-03-12 07138, 2017

      • Freso
        ruaok: Are you aware that beta.LB is currently ISE? I didn't notice anything reading the backlog.
      • 2017-03-12 07151, 2017

      • ruaok
        yep.
      • 2017-03-12 07158, 2017

      • Freso
        Alright. 👍
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

      • ruaok
        this is precisely why I am frustrated right now.
      • 2017-03-12 07137, 2017

      • ruaok
        this consul-template is poorly documented and confusing as shit.
      • 2017-03-12 07106, 2017

      • Freso
        :(
      • 2017-03-12 07155, 2017

      • ruaok
        zas: any more tips? and preferrably not just links to more cryptic docs?
      • 2017-03-12 07131, 2017

      • CatQuest
        hmn those the guy make a ticket about getting rid of the "desciption" being editable by a click thing?
      • 2017-03-12 07144, 2017

      • CatQuest
        *did the guys who complained about it
      • 2017-03-12 07150, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I don't mind the button being there and it being done -inpage, but sometimes just clicking into the paragraph makes it an editable field
      • 2017-03-12 07133, 2017

      • CatQuest
        like ex: single click on any part of this description https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-251
      • 2017-03-12 07133, 2017

      • BrainzBot
        INST-251: Viololyra
      • 2017-03-12 07104, 2017

      • Freso didn't see a ticket
      • 2017-03-12 07108, 2017

      • CatQuest
        hmm
      • 2017-03-12 07153, 2017

      • CatQuest
        what project is that
      • 2017-03-12 07155, 2017

      • CatQuest
        other?
      • 2017-03-12 07118, 2017

      • Freso
        I think that's where meta-tickets go, yeah. :)
      • 2017-03-12 07123, 2017

      • CatQuest
        :)
      • 2017-03-12 07147, 2017

      • CatQuest
        hmm.. who was it that mentioned getting rid of it first..
      • 2017-03-12 07103, 2017

      • CatQuest
        one of the devs, Gentlecat or zas
      • 2017-03-12 07108, 2017

      • CatQuest
        heh it was bitmap
      • 2017-03-12 07108, 2017

      • CatQuest
        Other-290
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

      • CatQuest
        OTHER-290
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

      • BrainzBot
        OTHER-290: unactivate click to edit descriptions on jira tickets https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/OTHER-290
      • 2017-03-12 07106, 2017

      • CatQuest
        (alastairp and bitmap might want to vote)
      • 2017-03-12 07110, 2017

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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: where are you seeing occitan?
      • 2017-03-12 07121, 2017

      • reosarevok tried to add a work and it was in the list of options for lyrics
      • 2017-03-12 07130, 2017

      • CatQuest
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      • reosarevok
        Aliases use the default Perl locale list and I don't think we can add new ones there
      • 2017-03-12 07106, 2017

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      • CatQuest
        ¬¬
      • 2017-03-12 07112, 2017

      • CatQuest
        then the ticet should be reopened..
      • 2017-03-12 07133, 2017

      • CatQuest
        MBS-9279
      • 2017-03-12 07133, 2017

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9279: add Occitan to languages https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9279
      • 2017-03-12 07144, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Well, that's not adding it to languages
      • 2017-03-12 07150, 2017

      • reosarevok
        I missed the "for aliases" bit though, fair
      • 2017-03-12 07112, 2017

      • CatQuest
        sorr for being unclear
      • 2017-03-12 07115, 2017

      • CatQuest
        +y
      • 2017-03-12 07125, 2017

      • reosarevok
        But then just comment on the linked ticket instead
      • 2017-03-12 07140, 2017

      • CatQuest
        .. i did?
      • 2017-03-12 07144, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Because we can't add any right now, and when we can it's easier to add them all if they're all there :)
      • 2017-03-12 07152, 2017

      • reosarevok
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-5150: Several languages/locales missing from alias list (Latin, Scots, Scottish Gaelic, ...)
      • 2017-03-12 07104, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ah. i'll link the instrument then ok
      • 2017-03-12 07136, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I saw that later, but I didn't understnad it tbh
      • 2017-03-12 07114, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ah
      • 2017-03-12 07114, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Well, it's just we don't use the language list for aliases
      • 2017-03-12 07116, 2017

      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        we should!
      • 2017-03-12 07140, 2017

      • reosarevok
        That's also not ideal
      • 2017-03-12 07141, 2017

      • CatQuest
        atleast we should *noe* lsit and not separate lists
      • 2017-03-12 07144, 2017

      • CatQuest
        one*
      • 2017-03-12 07149, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Because then we can't do Yaz vs. Yazoo anymore
      • 2017-03-12 07108, 2017

      • reosarevok
        We have one list of languages, and one list of locales (which is combinations of languages and countries)
      • 2017-03-12 07137, 2017

      • reosarevok
        We need the alias locales to be more than languages for the cases where the name is different in the same language in different countries
      • 2017-03-12 07146, 2017

      • CatQuest
        yea. most of that is a mess though, because save for a few language there aren't many where the same language has differnt names in differnt palces
      • 2017-03-12 07114, 2017

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      • github
        [picard] Sophist-UK opened pull request #652: PICARD-1011: Update tab order to match Action Toolbar order (master...patch-5) https://git.io/vyKzU
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      • CatQuest
        but on the flip side, names for different things could be different in like, us and uk
      • 2017-03-12 07124, 2017

      • CatQuest
        for the same thing*
      • 2017-03-12 07151, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so a work can be called diff thing in uk and the us
      • 2017-03-12 07154, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Exactly
      • 2017-03-12 07110, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so that applies not just ot aliases
      • 2017-03-12 07118, 2017

      • reosarevok
        That's the reason why we *do* have a locale list for aliases
      • 2017-03-12 07132, 2017

      • CatQuest
        yes!
      • 2017-03-12 07136, 2017

      • CatQuest
        but why cant we edit it!
      • 2017-03-12 07106, 2017

      • reosarevok
        (and it does apply only to aliases - or well, only to aliases and names, but names are just glorified aliases without a locale field right now)
      • 2017-03-12 07127, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Because we don't want to maintain our own locale list and we just use the one in the DateTime::Locale Perl module
      • 2017-03-12 07134, 2017

      • CatQuest
        :/
      • 2017-03-12 07148, 2017

      • CatQuest
        but we are already doing that iwth languages so the thing is duplicated anyway
      • 2017-03-12 07105, 2017

      • CatQuest
        it'd be better to have one list oflanguages where some sort of pulling locales..
      • 2017-03-12 07130, 2017

      • CatQuest
        or idk, some clever thing, there are two not-linked lists of languages(+locales in one) right now
      • 2017-03-12 07137, 2017

      • CatQuest
        thats already duplication of data :/
      • 2017-03-12 07119, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Sure, but if we want to keep using *locales* for aliases, making our own up doesn't make much sense either - we're not going to add "Roman Empire Latin"
      • 2017-03-12 07140, 2017

      • Leo_Verto[m]
        What about "Roman Republic Latin" though?
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: you are underestimating the insanity of music artists
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      • reosarevok slaps Leo_Verto[m] with a Salmonidae
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      • CatQuest
        \o/
      • 2017-03-12 07103, 2017

      • CatQuest
        it'd possibly be easier if we had a "locale" list separate from languages
      • 2017-03-12 07121, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so we could use one language list but just the thingy form perl.. or our own "areas" idk
      • 2017-03-12 07151, 2017

      • CatQuest
        so then we could actually list all the things names from that and that area on the area page
      • 2017-03-12 07117, 2017

      • CatQuest
        well on one page assumably
      • 2017-03-12 07118, 2017

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      • CatQuest
        hmm it makes no sense to have "releases" for instruments as I'm continusly doing them.. but would it be ok if I used it anyway to lin kones i want to focus on for say.. up towards a certan date?
      • 2017-03-12 07109, 2017

      • Leo_Verto[m]
        I really, really hate the people who came up with all this web dev stuff